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00:36:51, 17 January 2022 review of submission by 2603:300A:99C:9800:1195:F2D5:2AF2:8D9F

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2603:300A:99C:9800:1195:F2D5:2AF2:8D9F (talk) 00:36, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Kale My Name is quite quite notable and popular. Probably most popular vegan business in America. It has huge African American fan base and closing eyes on that as "not notable" is disrespectful.

Popularity is not the same as notability, see WP:ORG. 331dot (talk) 00:40, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

02:13:09, 17 January 2022 review of draft by Bitsmedia

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Can I check which sections in the draft needs to be edited?

Bitsmedia (talk) 02:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  On hold pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Bitsmedia#Declare any connection. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:45, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Bitsmedia: Thank you for declaring your connection. Some in the community will be troubled by phrases you've used, such as: "we want them to have a proper understanding of what Muslim Pro is from the perspective of others" and "we wanted it to start off from the right perspective". I think you will find that Wikipedia can't be used the way you want it to be. You may find WP:BFAQ#COMPANY informative.
Some specific problems with the draft include:
  • The lede is not an accurate summary of the body, it includes things that don't appear in the body.
  • Citations are sparse in the history section, and at first glance, none of them are obviously independent, reliable, secondary sources.
  • The product section is highly promotional. It is also very short on citations. The Vent Machine has none of the characteristics of a reliable source, and the piece in the New Straits Times is a press release.
  • From a cursory examination, the quality of sources in the collaboration and criticism sections appears to be better. There are entire paragraphs, however, that cite no sources.
  • The CSR section is promotional, and two of the three sources are press releases.
  • The reception section is the company's view of how the app has been received. There is no independent analysis where one would most expect some.
--Worldbruce (talk) 06:16, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

03:57:20, 17 January 2022 review of submission by GADGET0000

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GADGET0000 (talk) 03:57, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@GADGET0000: There is no way to fix this draft, when the subject isn't notable. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 04:30, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have no one to make a pagefor me... I followed your help desk guildlines and because of my social media population was advised to make a page.

Help me fix it instead of denying me a chance

Why am I being bullied when I have no one to make this page for my works. I followed all you help suggestions and instructions. Please understand that some people are not privileged to have knowledgeable friends who can do this.

GADGET0000 (talk) 04:12, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@GADGET0000: Please stop making new topics for every response. And what about the links? – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 05:00, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DID YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE LINKS

@GADGET0000: Please actually read the notability policy. It isn't about whether I think they are famous or not. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 05:09, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This draft cannot be fixed. The subject isn't notable enough. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 05:11, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will not stop because it says to ask for advice and all you say is no because the subject is not famous in your eyes.

You are to help fix it not bully me.. Trust me if I could I would delete my account cause I see this site is not for someone like me and the subject.

We are here to help, not necessarily to help you fix a draft that has no chance of becoming an article. The subject is not notable enough according to our inclusion criteria. It may be best that you move on to other subject matter and learn more about Wikipedia before you continue to try to take on the most difficult task there is on the site which is article creation. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 05:12, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete all my accounts with your site now GADGET0000 (talk) 05:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We can't. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 05:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
GADGET0000 What other accounts do you have? It is not possible to delete an account, but you may abandon your accounts. 331dot (talk) 08:53, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

03:58:24, 17 January 2022 review of draft by Cmcmill

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I am trying to correct my draft so I can insert it into an article to be added to my high schools sports notable alumni list. Please can you help me. Cmcmill (talk) 03:58, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cmcmill. If I understand correctly, you were drafted by the Kansas City Kings in the 7th round of the 1978 NBA draft, but never appeared in a game for them. So you don't meet any of the notability criteria of WP:NBASKETBALL. As talented as you were, you are not a suitable subject for a stand alone encyclopedia article. You may wish to consider alternative outlets, with different inclusion criteria, for what you've written. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:40, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

06:11:48, 17 January 2022 review of submission by Gvrpkumar

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Phanindra Kumar.GVR (talk) 06:11, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:54, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

08:41:24, 17 January 2022 review of draft by Imcherokeedazz

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Imcherokeedazz (talk) 08:41, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Imcherokeedazz You don't ask a question, but I declined your draft as a clear advertisement that didn't indicate notability. 331dot (talk) 08:55, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

09:31:38, 17 January 2022 review of submission by VickyWiki247

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Hi Team, I think we have added sufficient information and citation to each facts in this draft. All the articles are sourced from notable sources and are from reputed newspapers. Please do the re-review of the same and approve the same.

VickyWiki247 (talk) 09:31, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This was rejected it won't be considered again. Theroadislong (talk) 09:36, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

10:05:02, 17 January 2022 review of submission by Nagasaikrishna2004

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add my changes Nagasaikrishna2004 (talk) 10:05, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nagasaikrishna2004 As the draft was rejected, it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 10:06, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

10:38:48, 17 January 2022 review of submission by Surya1012

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My article recently got rejected for some reason. Being a new editor its difficult for me to spot the reason ,so a support from experienced Editor will help to catch the reason and remove it.

Surya1012 (talk) 10:38, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Surya1012: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia but your draft was written as a 'how to' but Wikipedia isn't the right place for 'how to' articles. Wikipedia already has an article about off-roading which you are welcome to improve, rather than creating another one. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:24, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

11:07:37, 17 January 2022 review of submission by Boringmikesmith

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Thanks. An advert sells a product or service. I utterly fail to see how this entry can be classed by you as such. You are clearly unfit to veto Wiki pages.

Boringmikesmith (talk) 11:07, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft Draft:Interim Spaces starts with a spam link to the business, it is clearly nothing but advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 11:11, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You need to declare your paid editor status, before editing further, undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI. Theroadislong (talk) 11:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello there, I have had my entry for Interim Spaces declined by an editor for being 'blatant advertising' which it is obviously not. Could I please have this entry reviewed.
Many thanks
Boringmikesmith (talk) 11:10, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Since this paid user considers me " clearly unfit to veto Wiki pages" would another reviewer please care to comment. Theroadislong (talk) 11:53, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Theroadislong: I would, but the draft has since been deleted. Boringmikesmith, Theroadislong is one of Wikipedia's most experienced and trusted reviewers. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:15, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Boringmikesmith I urge you to heed the advice of Theroadislong and instead of criticizing them because they did not tell you what you wanted to hear, learn from them so you can do the right thing. Please read your user talk page for important information. 331dot (talk) 13:56, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

11:17:47, 17 January 2022 review of submission by LalKhan2022

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Please help me in publishing my article. please

LalKhan2022 (talk) 11:17, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As explained on the draft, you need to find reliable sources and then re-submit. Theroadislong (talk) 12:15, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

12:36:12, 17 January 2022 review of submission by Sophron~trwiki

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The remark about town of Bodrum (where the hotel located) has been deleted. NYT article was was about Bodrum town, not the hotel. It seems like it doesn't meet WP:ORGCRIT so I removed all sentence. 5 star classification stated in a separated sentence with reference to Turkish Ministry of Tourism website. There is no direct link to the hotel's page but please do a search with "lujo" and you will see that state gave 5 star accreditation to the hotel. Please re-review. Thank you.

Sophron~trwiki (talk) 12:36, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sophron~trwiki. The hotel is not notable (not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia as a stand alone article). Being 5-star is not a marker of notability, and the awards are meaningless. Rejection of the draft is meant to be final, to convey that no amount of editing will make the topic acceptable. There is no option to re-submit the draft because volunteers do not intend to review it again. Wikipedia may not be used for any form of promotion, publicity, of public relations. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:52, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

12:41:49, 17 January 2022 review of draft by Sammyy07

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My draft article was declined, it said that it fails WP:NSEASONS but I don't know what I need to do to get it accepted

Sammyy07 (talk) 12:41, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sammyy07 There is nothing you can do if the season does not meet the criteria laid out at WP:NSEASONS. If it does, you must demonstrate that with independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 13:51, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

15:05:31, 17 January 2022 review of submission by Bscglasgow

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Hi there, BSC Glasgow is a professional football team in Scotland playing in the West of Scotland leagues. The club parted with part of the football team and they formed a new team called Broomhill FC. We had a wiki page, but for some reason our Wiki page went to Broomhill FC and we require a page for ourself. Broomhill FC should never had got the page for BSC Glasgow, and if you look at Broomhill FC wiki page you will see it points to the website for BSC Glasgow www.bscglasgow.co.uk

Please help Alan Hubner (BSC Glasgow)

Bscglasgow (talk) 15:05, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We have no interest in what your organization "requires". Our only goal here is to write an encyclopedia; any other benefit is secondary. Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. It offered no independent reliable sources with significant coverage. 331dot (talk) 21:56, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

15:52:27, 17 January 2022 review of submission by Alanhubner

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I have now login through my personal account as did not know it could not be a username like bscglasgow. My username is now alanhubner. Please can you let me know how I can fix this page so I can publish it. Thanks Alan Hubner

Alanhubner (talk) 15:52, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft is unsourced, promotion and has been rejected, it will not be considered further. Theroadislong (talk) 17:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

15:41:51, 17 January 2022 review of submission by Digitalpankajsharma

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Text of draft

Haider Raza (born 07 March 1980) is a prominent social worker of the state of Uttar Pradesh. He is also the President of Safipur Jan Vikas Sangh. He started his career as a cricketer. He was also a national player seven times and twice All India C.K. Also won the title of the best captain in the Naidu Championship. Personal Life- Haider Raja was born on 07 March 1980 in Safipur, Unnao district of Uttar Pradesh. He is the son of Late Syed Zeena Raza Naqvi. Father Gina is known to be a man of great perseverance. Raza is a Muslim by faith. Raza ji has four brothers. His elder brother Shri Mohsin Raza ji did M. R. f. Started his career with Pace Foundation (based in Chennai). and represented his state Uttar Pradesh in the Ranji Trophy. Later, on behalf of the Bharatiya Janata Party, in the year 2015, became the spokesperson of the party. In the year 2017, he became the Minister of Muslim Waqf and Haj Department in the Yogi Government of Bharatiya Janata Party. Younger brother Arshi Raza is a national player of cricket. Arshi Raza is playing an active role in politics since October 2009. He is also a better politician than the National Congress Party. He is also the chairman of the sports cell of Uttar Pradesh Congress Committee. The youngest brother of Haider Raza ji is Abbas Raza ji. He is a cricket coach and Ranji Trophy player. Early career Haider Raza ji started his career as a cricketer. He was also the national player of cricket for seven times. In which he represented the state of Uttar Pradesh. He was twice as C.K. Naidu was also a better captain in the national championship. He is also the Joint Secretary of Lucknow Cricket Association and President of Safipur Jan Vikas Sangh.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitalpankajsharma (talk • contribs) 16:41, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Digitalpankajsharma. If you have a question about the draft, ask it. There is no need to post the content of the draft, just link to Draft:Haider Raza. Normally, rejection of a draft is meant to be final, to convey that no amount of editing will make the topic acceptable. There is no option to re-submit the draft because volunteers do not intend to review it again. If you believe the reviewer is mistaken, that Raza meets one of the criteria of WP:NCRICKET, then I suggest you discuss it with them directly. You will need to be far more specific than saying "The source ... is Internet and other websites". Most websites are self-published, so not reliable sources. In particular, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and other social media sites; personal web pages; and Wikipedia are not reliable and should not be cited. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:15, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

16:45:43, 17 January 2022 review of submission by 172.58.4.62

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hello i have been updating Ray Strachan page for a long time and t keeps getting declined and i need some help improving it so if you see anything that needs to be fixed please fix it because a lot of his fans are waiting to read this page. 172.58.4.62 (talk) 16:45, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

17:42:24, 17 January 2022 review of submission by Ethicsblogger

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Many thanks to the hard-working reviewers who keep this site honest!

I just had a draft entry rejected, on the grounds that the citations "do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject."

The person who is the subject of the draft article is an academic, one who has held a major "named chair" in his discipline. My understanding (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) ) was that that was a sufficient criterion. Is the problem simply the source cited for that fact?

Thanks in advance for clarification!

Ethicsblogger (talk) 17:42, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It looks to me like he passes WP:NPROF (has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research) but would benefit from some reliable independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:51, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ethicsblogger: You buried the lede. The first sentence or two should explain why Danielson is notable. At present it reads, "... is a philosopher and Professor Emeritus in the Centre for Applied Ethics at the University of British Columbia". The reason he's notable, that he held a named chair at a major institution of higher education and research, doesn't show up until deep in the first paragraph of the body. Consider changing the lede to, "... is a philosopher and emeritus Mary & Maurice Young Professor of Applied Ethics at the University of British Columbia". That will better communicate to readers why he is worthy of notice. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:04, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ethicsblogger: in the nature of WP:NOTBUREAU and WP:BEBOLD I've just made the correction myself and promoted it to mainspace, congrats Nosebagbear (talk) 11:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

20:50:46, 17 January 2022 review of draft by William E Ostrem

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I'm currently looking for additional secondary sources such as books or journal articles that discuss the Marvin company extensively. After finding nothing further online so far, I've just contacted some librarians who might be able to help.

If you have any other advice, please let me know.

I do feel there are article subjects on Wikipedia that are less notable than this one, though, and, frankly, much more ephemeral.

Bill (talk) 20:50, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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