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00:13:48, 15 July 2019 review of submission by Mattcoopz

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I have added more depth to the references including an international article on one of the founders. Is there enough detail in this article to get it published or am I needing a lot more to get the first publish approved?

Mattcoopz (talk) 00:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mattcoopz. Rejection of the draft is meant to be final, to convey that the topic is not notable, so you should stop. No amount of editing will make an article about it acceptable. You may wish to consider alternative outlets, with different inclusion criteria, for what you've written. --Worldbruce (talk) 11:45, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

04:08:28, 15 July 2019 review of submission by Plextority

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HOMAY8N (talk) 04:08, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


04:22:49, 15 July 2019 review of submission by MANaina

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MANaina (talk) 04:22, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


09:52:45, 15 July 2019 review of draft by Annalog95

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Annalog95 (talk) 09:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello !

I would really need help to acknowledge that my article is a translation of a French existing article and change the French reference mark-up to English mark-up.

How could I do it ?

Thank you in advance for your help,

Regards,

Anna

Hi Annalog95. The copyright attribution has been done for you this time. If you translate material again, you can read more about the procedure for attribution at Wikipedia:Translation and Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:22, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

10:21:34, 15 July 2019 review of submission by Softball beasts

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Hi there. I'm trying to create an article for my softball club which has been declined due to unverifiable sources. The source I'm citing is the results printed on the website of the federal governing body for the sport in my country. I'm not sure what further source I can cite that would be more verifiable than this. Could you possibly help point me in the right direction? I was modelling my article based on another club in my town that has started this year and only cites news articles, yet their article for the club was accepted and published ( Basel Dragons AFC).

If you could help or suggest a route to investigate what sources are acceptable for a sports club it would be very much appreciated. Best regards, SB Softball beasts (talk) 10:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Softball beasts, Since you are one of the member of the subject, you have a conflict of interest here. Please note that Wikipedia strongly discourage editor with COI to create or edit the affected page as it is hard to write the content in nuetral point of view. Pls declare your COI in the article talk page and your user page. The sources we need are independent, reliable such as from the newspapers, books or reliable journals. The sources you provided are not independent since they associated with the subject. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:11, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

11:21:42, 15 July 2019 review of submission by Choudharyg677

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Choudharyg677 (talk) 11:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

13:21:16, 15 July 2019 review of submission by Benjamindavidharvey

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Benjamindavidharvey (talk) 13:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


13:49:48, 15 July 2019 review of submission by Redmercw

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Redmercw (talk) 13:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear sir/madam --

I recently asked for help in getting a timely review of a draft Wiki page that has been pending for over 10 months, and I received this "sharp" reply from "Worldbruce." Please note that my message below was drafted in an effort to solicit help, nothing else. "Worldbruce" did not explain if the review can be expedited given the fact that it has been rejected multiple times over the last 10 months. If nothing else, can you offer guidance re: whether the current draft will stand a chance of being accepted?


"Hello -- can you please provide an estimate of when W. Patrick Murphy draft page will be reviewed? It has been pending for 10 months, and I really need someone's help with getting it approved. Please help! We have revised this page countless times.

Thank you very much.

Christian Redmer

Hi Redmercw. It was submitted for review 8 days ago. The current backlog is 4 months. Your interests ("I really need ... it approved") may not align with Wikipedia's goals. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)"

@Redmercw: It doesn't look like anyone else is going to weigh in, so I'll try again. The draft reads as if it has been written by the information or public relations office of some section of the U.S. Foreign Service. That is not forbidden. However, neither you nor Stenobook26 has disclosed an external connection to the topic. If you are editing it as part of a job, including an unpaid job such as an internship, your failure to dislose your conflict of interest places you in violation of Wikimedia's Terms of Use.
If you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Redmercw. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Redmercw|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:45, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Worldbruce. I just made a disclosure at User:Redmercw. I would appreciate it if someone could please review when you have a chance and let me know if there are any further concerns. Thank you.

14:39:09, 15 July 2019 review of submission by 105.189.206.149

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105.189.206.149 (talk) 14:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I made an English page about this referee. I just translated all langages in English. Why this topic is not notable in wikipédia ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.189.206.149 (talk) 14:40, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14:50:14, 15 July 2019 review of submission by Pmurray123

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Hello. I am looking for specifics on why Draft:VS. System 2PCG was rejected and what I can do to make sure it is published in the future. Thank you! Pmurray123 (talk) 14:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Pmurray123: - it was declined (not rejected, which is similar but indicates the reviewer thinks it's a permanent decision), on the grounds of notability.
In short, the sourcing you have isn't good enough - you need multiple sources that are secondary, reliable, independent and in-depth. Your sources don't meet all those conditions. The game may not be big enough to have generated that level of suitable coverage, I don't know. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:11, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14:50:17, 15 July 2019 review of draft by Iattp

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Hi there, thanks for taking the time to go over the article on Ljupčo Santov Gymnasium Kočani so quickly. Regarding the need to cite sources, I basically translated it all from the Macedonian page:

https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%A3_%E2%80%9E%D0%89%D1%83%D0%BF%D1%87%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%E2%80%9C_-_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8

I do work at the school, but only in the capacity as a Peace Corps volunteer. A lot of the Macedonian page was NOT included, as it was quite subjective and contained outdated and false information. Is there something in particular that needs citation? I could do some research and try to get information from the ministry, but it's very hard to get that kind of stuff out here in Macedonia.

Thanks,

Nick

Iattp (talk) 14:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:03:33, 15 July 2019 review of submission by Nanawo99

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I just wanted to know the reason my page was rejected. Thank you for your time.

Nanawo99 (talk) 15:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Nanawo99: - the reviewer's specific reason is next to the yellow ! under the red box. Your page had no sources, thus it was impossible for it to be accepted. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:12:15, 15 July 2019 review of submission by Liff182

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Liff182 (talk) 15:12, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 15:17:17, 15 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Ryn 112

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I have been advised that the detail I have placed on the wiki page that I have submitted for Mark Leake cannot be accepted as it infringes copyright regulations. The detail that has been written was taken from Mark's own university people page with his permission and run past him before placing on the webpage to ensure that he was happy with the content, is this not enough to allow it to be used? Thank you for your support

Ryn 112 (talk) 15:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ryn 112. The source page states "© University of York", so Leake doesn't have the power to grant a license to reuse it. There are mechanisms by which the University could "donate" copyrighted material (see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials), but the effort probably isn't worth it. Material written for places other than Wikipedia was written for a different purpose, so it is rarely suitable for the encyclopedia. Such text almost always has to be rewritten anyway.
Also note that the bulk of any article should come from independent sources, so not from Leake or his employer. Furthermore, a draft should not be "run past him ... to ensure that he was happy" with it. It is not his article, but an article about him. If you're concerned about making him happy, you have a conflict of interest, and it would be a bad idea to write about him on Wikipedia at all. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:59:29, 15 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Fede-isr

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 Hello, I do not understand why my article was not published. I do believe it contains sufficient references to credible and reputable sources. Furthermore, this persons role in the financial technology industry, particularly in its regional development in Latin America  merits an encyclopedia article. If in fact the neutrality of the entre is the reason why it was disapproved, please advice on how I can improve it. Thanks! 

Fede-isr (talk) 18:59, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fede-isr The draft is full of empty marketing-speak used to promote the subject without imparting or plainly summarizing verifiable facts.
  • "advancing and creating opportunities for ... technology solutions to gain recognition in global markets"
  • "initiative presented financial technology companies, the opportunity to present and incorporate their solutions into Citi's core digital capabilities, accelerating the bank's development through Crowdsourcing solutions and generating an Open banking strategy."
  • "platform has provided fintech integration services"
  • "The core idea behind the program is to increase collaboration and enhance inter-operability between players in the new connected ecosystem of solutions and in the process foster the rapid growth of the financial industry globally."
  • "in order to provide fintech innovation programs designed to accelerate the digitalization of the financial industry and promote financial inclusion through innovative technologies."
Teaching good encyclopedic writing is a bit beyond the scope of this help desk, but you may find it useful to study Wikipedia's featured articles about companies and businesspeople. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:25, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

21:53:24, 15 July 2019 review of submission by FpsJimbo

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Resubmitting for approval, the first draft I made I lacked vital information, and was submitted with place holder templates, since then I have put every effort to make it a notable entry for Irish MMA fights and across the world over.

Kinda ask for your approval of this wiki page.

Regards, James

FpsJimbo (talk) 21:53, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi FpsJimbo. The reason for the rejection still stands. The notability criteria for MMA fighters (criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia) call for a minimum of 3 profession fights for top-tier MMA organizations. Of the organizations that Queally has fought for, only Bellator is top tier, and he has only fought for them once. If he fights for them twice more, the topic can be reconsidered. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:14, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 23:05:50, 15 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Koodre

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I would like to review and publish Articles for creation: Andre Koo as it has been revised. Thank you!


Andre Koo Jr. (talk) 23:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]