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10:03:44, 8 March 2018 review of submission by DeeM28

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Hello, I'm not sure what else needs to make this article more notable, considering this is a very important position in the European Commission, and predecessors have Wikipedia pages.

DeeM28 (talk) 10:03, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @DeeM28: great question. While I think her position should incline her towards an article, you need to show a lot more than just one source. Please find at least three or four citations which discuss (not just briefly mention) her, her career, or her impact. Extract some facts from the source, add the fact(s) in, and footnote the source to show where it came from.
I would suggest looking through GoogleNews (you can set your search for further back rather than just search recent news), and find some substantive discussion about her that you can cite. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:22, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@MatthewVanitas: I have added a bit more information, though I am not sure what else would be appropriate. Is there someone who could help with this matter, and articles in general? --DeeM28 (talk) 09:07, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  Done @DeeM28: I've approved the article, though it could still use some polishing. The best place to ask for beginning guidance would be WP:Teahouse. They don't have a form like we do here, so just post your question as a conversation, and make sure to post a link to your newly-published article, and mention briefly in your question who your subject is and why she matters (so people interested in Spain, the EU, or women lawyers can note). It's best if you can ask specific questions, but if you're not sure what to ask it's okay to just ask for general suggestions. Hope this helps! MatthewVanitas (talk) 09:20, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. --DeeM28 (talk) 06:52, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

12:11:03, 8 March 2018 review of submission by JusticeNeeded123

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This is a very high profile rape and murder case that has already been discussed in detail on Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dayalbagh and at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dayalbagh_Educational_Institute

I have created a new article for it as was concluded on the pages above, yet the draft was rejected. How should I edit my draft to ensure it gets accepted? JusticeNeeded123 (talk) 12:11, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @JusticeNeeded123: you have a very good question. The basic answer is the policy WP:NOTNEWS (which is worth a quick read if you have a moment). Basically, if a given event has a brief burst of news coverage, but no explicit longer-term effects, it is considered "news" and does not qualify for an article.
To show an contrast, we have the article 2012 Delhi gang rape. This is because the event was heavily covered worldwide, provoked massive protests and calls for reform, proposing and passing of news laws, debate on Indian society's views on sexual crimes, etc. Clearly that's a very major example, so not everything has to be as prominent as that, but to have an article about a murder we need to see something in that direction.
I'd advise you read WP:NOTNEWS and ask yourself if there is evidence, which you have not yet put into the article, that this event is noteworthy encyclopedically (clearly it's vitally important to the people involved). Please let me know on my Talk page if you have follow-up questions. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:19, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 17:07:24, 8 March 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Jbalseiro

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Hello, would be possible to know more specific which ones are my mistakes. I could change it all and probably would be wrong again. I tried to link with references to websites and articles all I could, I think not too bad, so I woulnd't really know how to do it. Any advise would help a lot! Thanks in advance

Jorge Balseiro, kind regards Jbalseiro (talk) 17:07, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jbalseiro, this is a good start, but we need some sourcing beyond just the awards. The company has been around for over a century, so there must be some coverage of its long history! Check out GoogleBooks and see if any books there document facts about the company, and/or see if any older news articles (on GoogleNews you can search "archive" for older news) explain more of the company's history.
Also, you have some language issues (like "lider" instead of "leader") so please either carefully check for mistakes, or ask a friend who's strong in English to look over the draft before you Resubmit.
Please add more sourcing beyond simply awards, then click Resubmit, and I'm pretty sure we can approve this once the citations are stronger, since it is a longstanding company. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:29, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

18:20:35, 8 March 2018 review of submission by Maselrich

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I am new to this and I do not understand the issue raised that this is more of an advertisement. What does it mean to be an advertisement? The article quotes things from 51 references. Is that not allowed. For example if independent references say words to the effect

"If this effort is successful, it will change CO2 into a valuable feed stock. Net CO2 emissions will be reduced as utilities and others work to capture value in the waste from their CO2 stream.[1]"

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"The technology also has the potential to reduce curtailment of renewable energy[2][3]"

Cannot that be included in the article?

What makes an article an advertisement, if the comments are largely taken from independent sources.

p.s. I also need to understand what is needed to establish notability. I included a list of independent sources. I realize that they do not depend in the final article, but I thought that the criteria for acceptance was that the article establish notability even if the article needs editing.

Maselrich (talk) 18:20, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  On hold Thank you, Maselrich, for declaring that you have a conflict of interest. I've commented on the draft. Beyond that, this is on hold pending a paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Maselrich#Elaborate on connection. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:47, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

18:44:44, 8 March 2018 review of submission by Xjdfu

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Xjdfu (talk) 18:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Done Already published by a different editor. MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:31, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 21:33:50, 8 March 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Patqwe65

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Hello guys, can someone help me with my article? because there are still some issues i dont know why. Thank you

Patqwe65 (talk) 21:33, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've commented on the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:50, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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