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05:20:33, 8 January 2018 review of draft by Hotdiggityhotdawg3.14

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I don't know how to add a picture to a new page I created, also how do I know the picture is okay to use? Also, the infobox for the film of the page I created has "Template:Name" in red text for every name mentioned in the infobox, will that change once it is published? Thank you for any help in advance :)) Hotdiggityhotdawg3.14 (talk) 05:20, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hotdiggityhotdawg3.14. It is unlikely to be okay to use any image you have. See WP:FILMNFI for more information. Non-free images may be used in articles if they meet the ten non-free content criteria, but they may not be used in drafts. The draft cites IMDb. It is user-generated, so it is not a reliable source and should not be used as a reference. The topic does not appear to satisfy the notability criteria for films, so Wikipedia should not have a stand alone article about it. --Worldbruce (talk) 21:07, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

08:10:30, 8 January 2018 review of submission by Dinesh.damse

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Dinesh.damse (talk) 08:10, 8 January 2018 (UTC) Why my post can be declined? What changes can i do in my article? What can i do now?[reply]

Dinesh.damse - Dinesh,

Your draft, Draft:Jodi Tuzi Mazi, was deleted for the reasons I suggested it probably would be when I declined it (see 5 January above). It was a wholly-promotional piece, written by you, without any reliable sources, on a non-notable company that you own. It just isn't a suitable article for Wikipedia. KJP1 (talk) 09:21, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

11:37:35, 8 January 2018 review of submission by 86.141.136.119

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I created a page. Someone created a new page and approved it. I've transferred my edits to the new (already existing) page. If the new page is live, I'd like to delete the draft. Thanks for your advice and/or help.

86.141.136.119 (talk) 11:37, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Done I have tagged for WP:G7 deletion. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:03, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

17:44:23, 8 January 2018 review of submission by Farnace

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I'm a little confused. In the German wiki this page already exist. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hersilie_Ewald

I've only translated it in English and want to publish it. The submission hasn't be accepted, because of the missing references. Why was this entry on the German site accepted without references, and here isn't? Thank you for your help.


Farnace (talk) 17:44, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Farnace. Each language version of Wikipedia operates according to its own policies and guidelines, set by the community of editors who contribute there. So an article may satisfy the rules for the German Wikipedia but not the English one, or vice versa. Also the existence of an article doesn't necessarily mean it should exist, it could mean only that no one has gotten around to deleting it yet. It's plausible that Ewald is notable, but you'll need to find and cite independent reliable sources to prove it and to support the content of the draft in order for it to be accepted here. --Worldbruce (talk) 20:14, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

18:10:33, 8 January 2018 review of submission by BeanstalkHope

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This page was quickly deleted by Wikipedia for suspected advertising and promotion reasons. However this page was created to be an encyclopedia page only. I would like to create this page so others with knowledge on the topic can add to it and keep the page up to date. The purpose is so readers can learn about the history and development of the company as well as current facts and information. This was not created for advertising purposes. I denoted a very detailed history about the owner and founder as well as a company history and company overview with facts about the company. There was no sales or promotional information in the text. I would appreciate your input on what part of the article needs to be changed or what needs to be done in order to get this page approved. Your help is much appreciated. Thank you for your time and understanding. BeanstalkHope (talk) 18:10, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BeanstalkHope. Draft:Beanstalk Web Solutions was deleted for being unambiguous advertising or promotion. Because it has been deleted, I can't see it to comment on it, but normally the violation has to be especially egregious for a draft to be deleted for that reason. That suggests that you have too close a connection to the topic to have any realistic hope of writing about it objectively. See WP:BFAQ#COMPANY for recommended ways forward. --Worldbruce (talk) 20:25, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanstalkHope: as Draft:Beanstalk Web Solutions has been deleted only administrators can now view it and comment on the specific content. I am not an admin so will only be able to answer generally. Given your user name I presume you are writing about your own company? This is strongly discouraged - please read WP:COI. Wikipedia's terms of use do not allow you to use Wikipedia for promotional purposes. However if your draft was very carefully written to avoid any bias and statements were backed up with references from reliable sources then your draft might be accepted. You should understand though, that creating an article purely for the purpose of providing readers with knowledge of a topic, and ensuring that everything is factual, isn't enough. The subject you are writing about must be considered notable. To understand the concept of notability in the context of Wikipedia, please read WP:N. Your article will only be accepted if you can show through the adding of references that multiple reliable, independent publications have written in depth about the company. Try this handy article to understand how to add good references that demonstrate notability: User:Joe_Decker/IsThisNotable. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 20:26, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

18:12:26, 8 January 2018 review of submission by Brad Deberti

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I am trying to figure out how to get my page for the Racer Car Driver "Brad DeBerti" up and running and it says that it has been kicked back for articles not being cited properly. I have two questions as I am building this page for him 1. I am having trouble pulling the info from the sandbox straight over to a page that can actually be published and would like help with that. 2. Can you send me a link that can just be copied and pasted into the sandbox that will create a proper referencing section or do you require all citations to be added at the end of each sentence? I have seen multiple other pages where there is simply a citation section at the bottom. Please let me know what to do next. Brad Deberti (talk) 18:12, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brad Deberti. Biographies of living persons have stricter requirements about inline citations. Referencing for beginners explains the mechanics. If you want to avoid inline citations (avoid showing the reader which sources support which statements) and just bullet point your sources at the bottom, you'll have to wait until Deberti is dead. If you are Deberti, then you can save yourself a lot of grief by not writing about yourself. Wikipedia strongly discourages autobiographies. Otherwise, I suggest you start by identifying independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain in-depth information about Deberti. One is [1]. Find at least two more of similar depth and in publications with a similar reputation for accuracy and fact checking. Write the draft (which doesn't need to be very long) using information from those sources. If he meets any criteria of WP:NMOTORSPORT, explain which in the first sentence or two. If he doesn't, you may be better off waiting until later in his career. --Worldbruce (talk) 20:59, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

20:32:20, 8 January 2018 review of submission by Chike Ebose

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Hello, I am requesting an Admin to review this article to avoid delete, as stated in the notice i saw before creating it. my regards

Chike Ebose (talk) 20:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chike Ebose. The draft is in the pool to be reviewed by an experienced Wikipedian. You can expect it to be reviewed within the next two months. While you wait, check out other ways to improve the encyclopedia at Wikipedia:Community portal. --Worldbruce (talk) 21:05, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winning Jah. The subject has been found not to be notable. How has the article improved since it was deleted? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:05, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 22:26:16, 8 January 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Avatar317

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Hello.

I submitted the above article for creation and it was rejected (second time now) with the statement: "This is much more of an WP:NOTESSAY than an article. Please do not include WP:OR in an article."

It was previously rejected with a similar comment, and before I initially submitted it, I was unfamiliar with Wikipedia's policies of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Now that I have read those policies, and the one on primary and secondary sources, I attempted to remove any original research from the article and rewrote any statements which might have appeared as OR to properly attribute the source of that statement.

To my knowledge, it now includes nothing that could be claimed as original research, it is all sourced and referenced. The editor unfortunately did not point out any SPECIFIC places of claimed original research.

If those instances exist, could someone please point out the specifics of WHERE they exist in this article so that I can improve it?

Thanks!

Avatar317 (talk) 22:26, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Avatar317: - The article is still written more like an essay, than a wikipedia article. The draft starts "Since about 1970", which really isn't encylopedic wording. You also can't say things like "The fundamental cause", as it's not fact. It's a good article, but as if written for a school project, not an encylopedia entry. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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