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January 21

was my JulietteSpeaks article denied? I thought I had to wait three weeks to get a response??

was my JulietteSpeaks article denied? I thought I had to wait three weeks to get a response?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AAAsources (talk • contribs) 00:05, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Please provide a link to the draft article you submitted. According to the record of your activity posting this question is the only thing you have ever done on the English Wikipedia. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:36, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Your submission name here

Why was my Minecraft Multiplayer thing declined — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bford123 (talk • contribs) 05:08, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Minecraft Multiplayer was declined because it had no sources.

In addition, there already exists the Wikipedia article Minecraft, which would be the correct place to add further information - if you have sources for the information. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 08:59, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Father of naval medicine

i posted one article titled Father of naval medicine,ca n i know how many days it will take to get approval/rejection and how could i know whether it is approved or rejected.--Sukendhar singamshetty (talk) 05:57, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

First of all, that page is not submitted for review.

Second, the article James Lind already exists, so if you have any additional sourced information you should add it there, not in a new article. Using inline citations would be best; see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners to see how to add these. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 08:57, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ninoslav Marina

Hello,

Can anyone help me figure out why the article for Ninoslav Marina is declined and how can I fix it so it can be published?

Thanks in advance, Misko — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mihajlovmisko (talk • contribs) 08:25, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

It was declined because it had no references. To see how to add references, click the links provided in the pink box on the page itself. You may also find Wikipedia:ACADEMIC, the notability guideline for academic people, to be useful. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 08:54, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Spider Project (software)

Hello, I seem not to be able to make an inter-language link to the similar already existing article on the other language [1]. How do I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ev2geny (talk • contribs) 08:38, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Alex Martinez, Graffiti Artist

Title: Alex Martinez, Graffiti Artist

I have edited the article but I don't think it's submitted for review. Why?

It's a straight bio of a famous artist who is missing from Wiki because he has been intentionally anonymous up to now.

Granted, my original edit was wacky with a zillion links but that's fixed. Where did I go wrong?

Thanks

Bill

Graffitinucular (talk) 09:10, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

The London Evening Standard article is a useable source. But you have only that one source that's both independent and reliable, so you need more. You also can't describe a living person as being wanted by the police unless you can support that fact with an inline citation to a reliable source which says so. Plus, commentary like "Some types of crime do pay, eventually!" is not suitable for an encyclopedia article. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 09:51, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Graffitinucular, answering here to keep all the answers in one place:

• Regarding images, I'm not an expert but my understanding is murals/grafitti would be presumed to be Martinez's copyrighted works unless he has specifically released them as Public Domain. Like if he literally sharpies "RELEASED UNDER CREATIVE COMMONS 1.4" at the bottom. ;) But otherwise we can't just assume his works to be freely usable, since taking a photo of a piece of artwork does not constitute creating a new "piece of work" owned by you. For buildings/structures in the US, Wikipedia:Freedom of panorama lets you photograph them as your "own work", but not statues, murals, or other visual arts. So I'm not clear on any way to legally to it except having Martinez himself contact the Wikimedia Foundation to file an WP:OTRS slip verifying that he is Martinez and releases Mural #47 to the Public Domain, unlimited for any and all purposes.
  • You can also check Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright if you want to get a better feel for Image rules.
• Regarding your current draft, you only have one decent reference. Please read WP:Notability (artists) which explains what kind of neutral, objective, independent coverage of him we need from news media and/or academia. Basically, we need to see things written about him by uninvolved professionals interested in his work. MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:04, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I have a Penthouse Magazine verifiable link plus Greek Newspaper articles. Regarding Alex's book, can I put an Amazon link on Wiki? Probably not eh?

Will have to get my head around this stuff, read it a few times.

Thanks to all

Bill Graffitinucular (talk) 17:15, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Bill. You are correct, Amazon links for products are almost never suitable for Wikipedia articles. That is mainly because Amazon has an interest in selling the product, and thus is not an independent source - no use for proving notability. In addition, Amazon customer reviews and the like are what we call "user generated content" - which is not considered reliable. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 09:36, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/November Music

Dear,

I'm struggeling with the reliable sources/references in my article. I've looked at other musicfestivals and they only have an external link to their website, just as I used. And those that have references, refer to their own website. What to do?

Thanks in advance,

best,

Koen Graat KGraat (talk) 11:07, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

I always recommend looking at Wikipedia Good Articles as examples of what to do, rather than just looking at any article that happens to be in the same subject area. In this case, there are several music festivals that are Wikipedia Good Articles, including Glastonbury Festival. That and the rather less well-known (and now bankrupt) Ashton Court Festival article make use of a variety of sources including local newspapers, major online news websites such as the BBC, and so on. It is acceptable for sources to be either online or offline, and in either Dutch or English. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:26, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

How to add a title to an article ?

 Done Hi there

I'm creating my first article on Wikipedia, but I don't manage to give it a title. Currently the article title is Avitawil/Sandbox. How can I change that? Please help me. I've tried to look at the wikipedia FAQ, but I haven't found an answer to my question. Thanks in advance.

Best regards, Avi Tawil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avitawil (talk • contribs) 11:20, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

There is no need to worry about the article title at present; the reviewer will Wikipedia:MOVE it to the appropriate title if it is accepted. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:28, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hello,Here is my Question. why my artice was not accepted? Thank you. Raffi Ipdjian Raffiipdjian (talk) 16:08, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

User:Raffiipdjian/sandbox was rejected because it is not written in English and therefore not suitable for the English Wikipedia. The Armenian Wikipedia may be more suitable. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:12, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Artis

Hello

I tried to create this 'Artis' article two weeks ago, but it hasn't been reviewed, or at least I'm unaware of the edits it need! Let me know what I should do. HaKulturist (talk) 18:46, 21 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HaKulturist (talk • contribs) 18:40, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

That article isn't currently submitted for review. You need to place the text {{subst:submit}} on it. Rankersbo (talk) 19:52, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

thanks!  Fixed Now that I have the link I've saved it to find the page, but how did you look for it in the first place and see it wasn't in the reviews? HaKulturist (talk) 20:26, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Well it is in your edit history, and in the header for this section.Rankersbo (talk) 20:42, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

You can tell if it's in the queue or not, by seeing if it has a yellow "Waiting" box. If it has that anywhere on the page, you're in the queue. If not, you're not. Sometimes there are multiple templates on the page due to a pile-up of coding, but the Yellow takes precedence, even if it appears at the bottom of the page. Any Yellow = in queue. MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:23, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Salted Challenge Response Authentication Mechanism

Hello, my rejection included that I need to reference the notability of SCRAM. Now I don't know whether it is notable for Wikipedia or not. Why isn't it sufficient that it is an IETF standard?

As secondary sources, I have found those on the Web: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]

XMPP applications supporting SCRAM: [10] [11] (According to [12], SCRAM is mandatory in XMPP)

I can't tell which of those have sufficient coverage to be reliable sources by Wikipedia definition.

I would like to make, as requested, the article less technical. But when it is not notable I don't want to invest more time. So my question is: Is SCRAM notable at all?

Thank you. Muelleum (talk) 22:04, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Those sources do appear to be independent so yes please use them in the article. With the inclusion of these sources Notability would indeed be satisfied. You can also ask WP:WikiProject Computing for assistance, the editors there are familiar with writing articles in this subject area so they can give you more specific advice. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:00, 22 January 2014 (UTC)