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What has been said about Mina Tribe in this book? Please try to tell.

-- Karsan Chanda (talk) 02:48, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

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You might get a quicker response at the French Wikipedia, as only a small proportion of responders on this English Wikipedia are likely to be both fluent French readers (thus able to translate to English accurately) and willing to take on such a not-inconsiderable task. Do you know if this Tribe is called "Mina" (or "Meena") in French, or something else? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.209.123.235 (talk) 06:47, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Page 128 in the book says: "Together With the Mhairs, Minas are half-savages from Rajputana. The two population are the links between the savage Bhils, and the Jâts, who are civilized. Together they number some several hundreds of thousand. Like the Bhils, they maintain fortified towns and hamlets. Many of them are "recruited" from outcasts from the Rajputs or the Jâts. They are today engaged in a fast accession to civilization. They are beginning to practice agriculture and they are adopting the brahmanic religion, but they still worship trees, stone altars, and iron, in the fashion of the Bhils. They adopted an hindi dialect, whereas Bhils from the inside are using a language similar to that of the Gonds." See Bhil people#History --Askedonty (talk) 10:03, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) In the caption of the photograph on page 131, as wel as elsewhere in the book, the Mina tribe is called a "half-savage tribe of Rajputana" (savage in the sense of not having a highly developed culture). In general, the discussion of the Mina is confined to Rajputana; they are mostly mentioned as one of three half-savage tribes of Rajputana, the Bhil, the Mhair and the Mina. (I cannot identify Mhair as any of the scheduled tribes.) The first mention is on page 86. The Mina are said there to occupy the Jaipur kingdom in the high Ganges basin, numbered 200,000 to 300,000. On pages 125 and 126 we read that while the "primitive element" dominates among the Bhil and is on equal footing with the "Turanian element" among the Mhair, the latter element dominates among the Mina. (These are old-fashioned racialist characterizations.) Page 128 tells us that the Mhair and Mina live in the Aravulli mountains in the heart of Rajputana, numbering several hundred thousand, where they build fortified villages. They may be ennobled by the admixture of the Rajputi and Jât races. Civilization is in rapid progress; they begin to cultivate the land and adopt Brahmanic worship. They speak a dialect of Hindi.  --Lambiam 11:34, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

The process of a "tribal" group formerly somewhat outside of Indian civilization adopting Hindu customs and entering the caste hierarchy near the bottom (but hoping to move up) is known as "Sanskritisation"... AnonMoos (talk) 22:22, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia as a source of novelty

Is it known that any musicians, writers or scholars have been inspired in their work by Wikipedia?
Possibly even scientists?--2A02:908:426:D280:7100:3AFC:91AC:329B (talk) 10:58, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Various aspects of Wikipedia have been the subject of scholarly research, as in [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and many more. Of course, there are references to Wikipedia in works of fiction ([6], [7], [8], ...), but in these contexts one can hardly call it a source of inspiration.  --Lambiam 12:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia: The Movie is coming out soon. The release date has had to be put back numerous times. The editing process has been a complete bitch. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:48, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

The song Newport (Ymerodraeth State of Mind) references Wikipedia --TrogWoolley (talk) 11:33, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

WHAAOE; see Wikipedia in culture for examples of the use of Wikipedia in song, film, writing, and MANY other places. --Jayron32 11:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)