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January 14

Really difficult song ID request?

I think this might be a difficult request because I don't remember a lot of details, but there is a song that was used in a commercial (Kodak? I could be totally wrong on that) (in the U.S.) many years ago. The lyrics were French, and numbers were a big part of the song, as in: Un, [more French], Deux, [more French], etc. Bonus points for getting the commercial too! TresÁrboles (talk) 03:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

This doesn't match the description, but this was a pretty famous Kodak ad:[1] ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Way too early! But thanks anyway. TresÁrboles (talk) 02:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

After some searching in Google and Youtube, it's looking unlikely I'll find my answer. :( It's not "Un Deux Trois" by Catherine Ferry, it's not Feist's 1234 in French, or anything else I find (most of which are too recent, if I'm not mistaken) (and don't match anyway since there should be other words between the numbers)... TresÁrboles (talk) 02:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Does this site help? Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:23, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

No, but thanks for the link. It might be a useful resource in the future (although I hope they improve the interface). TresÁrboles (talk) 21:57, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

You could try contacting Kodak. I hope this helps. JW..[ T..C ] 06:46, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I would, but I'm not very sure that it was a Kodak commercial. It might be Fujifilm, Canon, Epson, and it's entirely possible it has nothing to do with film, photography, or prints at all. That's how fuzzy this is. Thanks for the suggestion though. TresÁrboles (talk) 21:57, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Was he, or wasn't he ?

Whilst watching a History Channel documentary on Walt Disney, I saw there were allegations, that as well as being an autocratic boss ( not necessarily unreasonable), he was also an anti Semite. This was also touched on by one of those aside scenes in Family Guy, showing him coming out of cryogenic suspension ( an urban legend I had heard myself years before, but know is false ), and asking if the Jews are gone yet. I would shudder to think that such an influential and well beloved man as he would be like that, considering his contributions to the war effort. Whether this makes any difference now, considering there does not appear to be any anti Jewish sentiment in any of his works, I have no idea, but as a fact, it would still be interesting to know. The article on him here does not mention it. I am not trying to dredge anything up, seeing I was unaware of it before I saw the documentary, and that it was mentioned by others. The Russian Christopher Lilly 11:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I think that subject has come up from time to time on the Disney page, and it's usually zapped because no one can find a valid source for it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:00, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Uncle Cecil addresses this (as well as some other accusations) here. There seems to have been at least some anti-semetic feelings in the studio, but it's unclear how strongly (if at all) Disney endorsed this. Buddy431 (talk) 15:42, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Disney was a product of his times, and those times included endless ethnic and racial stereotyping. To take a specific scene from a specific cartoon and say he was anti-semitic because he stereotyped a Jew (as noted in the Straight Dope article) is blinders-on thinking. Disney stereotyped every ethnic group you can think of. I recall a rather embarassing song in Peter Pan called "What Made the Red Man Red?" He stereotyped the German scientist with Ludwig von Drake, and of course participated in war propaganda with Donald being in a Nazi nightmare. He stereotyped the penny-pinching Scotsman in Scrooge McDuck. He stereotyped the black man in Song of the South. For that matter, he stereotyped the British in Mary Poppins. Yet those stereotypes were tame compared to the stuff the Termite Terrace boys at WB came up with. Whoopi Goldberg's disclaimers at the beginning of the Looney Tunes Golden Collection discs express it more eloquently. The stereotyping is now seen as mostly poor taste, but it was what it was. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:00, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

It's important to keep in mind that while Disney may have dabbled in a neo-Nazi group, he was far from the only one. One of the more notorious was Charles Lindbergh, who took a lot of P.R. heat for refusing to dispose of some medals Hitler's government had given him. He was also alleged to be anti-semitic. Yet the Nazi sympathizers changed their tune when we went to war with Hitler and later were shocked and dismayed when the Holocaust was revealed. Plenty of Americans also dabbled in Communist groups, which came back to haunt them in the 1950s. Someone once said bitterly about Disney, possibly in regard to his HUAC testimony, "Disney doesn't tear up an actor's contract, he tears up the actor." In any case, you're not going to find any recurring anti-semitic themes in Disney's cartoons. The cartoons got into all kinds of different stereotypes, and that was just one in the long list. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

He could hardly have dabbled in neo-nazi groups while the original Nazis were still in power. I think Bugs means that he dabbled in pro-Nazi groups. Buddy431 (talk) 19:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Ja. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

That makes a lot more sense. We tend to judge other people by our standards or our time we live in. Those who disagree with the way things were needed to speak out then. Now of course, we cannot rewrite history, as much as Henry Tudor was alleged to have done. They were what they were. George Lucas was accused of the same sort of thing with respect to the apparent racial stereotypes in The Phantom Menace. Sometimes a man like Disney may have been coloured by what went on in his office, of which he was the undisputed head, tall poppy syndrome, and all that, or he was just an ultra conservative, tarred by those who were not with the same brush, since they see the other side as all the same. Thank you for enlightening me. The Russian Christopher Lilly 11:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Along similar lines, in the book Don't Know Much About the Civil War, the author says, "By modern standards, Abraham Lincoln was a racist. But by standards of his day, he was a liberal." ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Anyone know these songs

Hi

I'm trying to find two songs which I've heard on someone's cellphone, but I can't seem to find it. I've tried googling both songs by using some of the lyrics that I could pick up, but it comes up with other songs.The first one is a sung by a male and female and here's some of the lyrics that I could pick up from the first line: Female "Oh no special reason, why we can't get along you say you love me still I'm hungry... There's a million sad songs... ,but I realize that I have had it coming. [Chorus] It's breaking up my heart and it's telling me to go. If being faithfull is wrong..." Male "... If I said that you were wrong I'd be pretending......... In my heart I know I've given you the reason... There's a million sad songs that I can... ,but I realize that I have had it coming." [Chorus]. I hope it helps fi there's anyone out there who's willing to give ths a try.

The second song is sung by a male and some of the lyrics goes like this: "I wish I could take back the things that I said/ We both said some things that we regret/ I never meant to hurt your heart, I can't believe we fell apart/ I know; I know (girl you're the one for me)/ I know you are (girl you're the one for me/ I know you know (girl you're the one for me/ Oh no don't go (girl you're the one for me/ I can spend my life searching for the world/ I would neer find someone like you girl/ So please understand that I wanna be you man, I'm sorry"

Note: I stand corrected if the lyrics might be a bit incorrect.

Thanks, NirocFX 41.193.16.234 (talk) 11:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

06/08/15 The first song is called: Breaking of my Heart by Andrea Martin feat. Ivan Matias :) :) Enjoy!!

What genre were the songs? R'n'B? Soft rock? Country? Providing that info might help. TomorrowTime (talk) 13:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

The second song appears to be "I Wanna Be Your Man" by K. Young (or possibly K-Young).[2] (although last.fm isn't particularly reliable for this type of information, and I can't find any reliable sources that mention the song). snigbrook (talk) 00:21, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Guys, thanks (TomorrowTime,Snigbrook ) for taking a look at my questions. TomorrowTime, both song are from the RñB genre and they sound recent.

NirocFX 41.193.16.234 (talk) 11:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Looking for an Music vid

It's an 2000s Song) , : It features an Man driving in a small town , in heavy snowstorm or rainstorm at night , In a 70s or 80s car , And there are these Train tracks , It's like he can change the future by doing something before ending into chrashing...

In the first trip over these train tracks he does something (goes to a shop and more) and ends up with the train crashing into him... And he gets killed. But then again it shows him driving the same way through this town but now stopping to do something and going to a shop, He now nearly escapes but does get killed ( :( ) , Then In the end he stops because of some kid running into the road or something stopping him , but he goes to the Tracks again , but now he stops and does something and sees the train go past him and then it shows him driving away and then it fades into a black screen. :(

He always goes the same way and does everything the same exept for when he gets to the train? tracks , there he always does something else and ends up surviving the train. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.99.197 (talk) 22:12, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

It does not have to be the same way as I told it but it WAS A 2000s vid..

I don't know the genre , but it was rather sad seeing him killed. So i guess it was a sad song .. not a cheery or dance or somthing like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.99.197 (talk) 22:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for any help :( , —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.99.197 (talk) 22:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Ima put this more simple , There's a man driving in a small town , He looks first for something in his car , And drives on through this town , but doesnt't notice a train coming and dies in a horrible car accident , Then it show him doing the same things but before he crosses the train track he stops for a kid running a cross the road? , But continues and ends up in the same horrible accident , Then in the 3rd time it shows him again doing the same things , stopping for the kid again but something I don't remember happens and he goes safe home atleast doesn't crash :/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.99.197 (talk) 22:39, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Videos featuring older cars and some type of destruction have been somewhat common in the last two decades. Radiohead had a video for Karma Police that featured an old car chasing a man and finally bursting into flames. A recent Chevelle video also had an older car that explodes. While neither of these examples sound like the video you are describing exactly, we will probably need a clue to the type of music to narrow it down. 10draftsdeep (talk) 22:00, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

World Cup qualification

hi: you posted a article on world cup soccer qualification and say Fifa will make Asia annex Oceania in 2014 , and Concacaf #4 plays Conmebol #5 where did you get the facts about this infomation ? The article is "FiFa World cup Qualification " - thank you - CFU —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.103.209.249 (talk) 22:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi : I am very much interested about an article you wrote about FIFA World Cup Qualification(soccer)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Wo...s_by_continent  ; According to your post Concacaf #4 & Conmebol # 5 will be the only intercontinental playoff for 2014 era and alsoAFC(Asia) will annex OFC or Oceania . I just want to know whats the source of this information or how do you know all that ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Countrybouy (talk • contribs) 23:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing the article section you are asking about is FIFA World Cup qualification#Qualification spots by continent. It may be best to ask your question at the talk page for that article (see the tab at the top of the page labelled "discussion"). --LarryMac | Talk 01:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

The OFC announced it themselves in 2006 on their website (which is referenced in the article). The OFC qualification route is now via the South Pacific Games and OFC Nations Cup with the winner of that going through to the final round of Asian qualification. For the 2014 World Cup however, the 2011 Pacific Games will count as the first round entirely. See also 2014 FIFA World Cup qualification. Nanonic (talk) 05:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)