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October 13

Erasing Message for Deletion

I got a message that my post might be deleted because of a lack of references. I have created the reference list, and now wish to delete the message for deletion, but don't know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carolineeliaz (talk • contribs) 02:13, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Carolineeliaz, sources have been cited so I have removed the WP:BLPROD tag. However almost all the currently cited sources are WP:PRIMARY, that is they are to the subject's own work or to publications by organizations that the subject worked for or with. As such they do little or nothing to establish the notability of the subject. Note that Wikipedia uses the term notability in a specialized way. Here it does not mean "importance" but rather "degree to which independent published reliable sources have discussed the subject". To show it, the main method is to cite such independent sources. An articel where this is not done is all to likely to be deleted for lack of notability. Please read Wikipedia's Golden Rule and Your First Article for some background on this. DES ^(talk) 02:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Email notifications for article talk pages?

Hello, I'm not receiving email notifications for changes to an article Talk page on an article on my Watchlist I have edited. Sometimes I get an email notification and sometimes I don't. I've ticked the box in my User profile to receive email notifications when a page on my Watchlist is changed. In email options I've opted to receive individual notifications as they come in...Any ideas what is going wrong here? XRii (talk) 06:38, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

@XRii: Help:Email notification says: "Note that once an email notification has been sent, additional talk page changes will not result in any further notifications, until the user has logged in and visited their talk page. In addition, the user's own page changes never trigger a notification mail to themselves." The same applies to other watched pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you PrimeHunter, but they're apart from my own changes, and also I'm talking about article Talk pages on my Watchlist. I log in and check them from time to time, but have been busy several times and logged in again to find there were heaps of changes I was not notified of, over days or weeks. Eg. I logged in yesterday - no changes, and then logged in today, and there were two additions to a watched Talk page, but I had no notifications...XRii (talk) 09:53, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I think I've figured it out. Sorry to put you to the trouble PrimeHunter. I've been lazy when I get notifications and just looking at the diffs rather than viewing the Talk page. From MediaWiki 1.5, you can get an e-mail after a watched page has been edited by somebody else. This will not be repeated until you view the page. Viewing a diff or the page history is not enough. Note that you have to be logged in when viewing the page, otherwise you will not be notified of further changes. Optionally this notification system can ignore minor changes (this is the default). from Help:Watching pages. Thanks again for your help. XRii (talk) 10:10, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Iqbalur Rahim page!

Dear sir,

I am an editor on your free wikipedia group. I had a page in wikipedia but my page is deleted now for the reason A tag has been placed on Iqbalur Rahim requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement dated Oct 05, 2015.

I am requesting you to resolve the problem and i am one of the member of this team who they are working for https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rafusoft.iqbalurrahimmp and http://www.iqbalurrahim.com/ website

Warm regards, Poresh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poresh (talk • contribs) 07:52, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Poresh. I'm afraid it doesn't make any difference what team you are a member of. Those two sites say "©2015 Google" and "© 2014 Iqbalur Rahim MP. All Rights Reserved". Therefore material from those sites may not be copied into Wikipedia unless the copyright holder explicitly releases the material under a suitable licence such as CC-BY-SA (which will allow anybody to reuse it for any purpose, including commercially, as long as they give proper attribution). If the copyright holder wishes to do so, they should follow the process in donating copyright materials; but it is probably not worth their doing so for text, because text from their own website is usually far too promotional for Wikipedia. Wikipedia articles should be written from a neutral point of view, based almost entirely on what people unconnected with the subject have published about them: Wikipedia has almost no interest in what a person or organisation (or their employees, relatives, or associates) say about themselves. --ColinFine (talk) 09:28, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

To stop people from editing Wikipedia

I am from India and I am 18 years old. All the information provided in the Wikipedia are correct but allowing others to edit it may result in losing important data. I have seen many people who edit Wikipedia and provide wrong information. So please don't allow others to edit it so that Wikipedia continues its legacy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.29.202.73 (talk) 09:21, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

• Unfortunately that is contrary to one of the Five Pillars of Wikipedia, which are the fundamental principles of what makes Wikipedia what it is. That said, incorrect, non-verifiable and disruptive edits (aka vandalism) are constantly found and removed through established processes. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 09:31, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, person from India. Information is hardly ever lost from Wikipedia: except in certain cases involving sensitive personal information, all previous versions of an article are there in its history, so any information that has been removed can be restored if it is appropriate.

Wikipedia is designed to be The Encyclopaedia that Anyone May Edit, so your suggestion would change its character fundamentally. If you think that somebody has removed information from an article that should be kept, you can restore it (but if somebody removes it again, you should not restore it again - that is called "edit war": rather, you should discuss it with them on the article's talk page. See WP:BRD for how this works.) Do bear in mind that every single piece of information in Wikipedia should be cited to a reliable published source: people often remove information because there is no source given for it, and you should not restore the information unless you give a published source. Please see WP:42. --ColinFine (talk) 09:37, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Are you seriously suggesting you should be the only person allowed to edit Wikipedia? JIP | Talk 11:26, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

• " All the information provided in the Wikipedia are correct " --- well, um no. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:26, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

• Also, it should be noted that "All the information provided in <anything> are correct" is an impossible statement, since no source is perfect. Even your own memory and senses are not a perfect reflection of reality. No source can be perfect; however the ability of Wikipedia to be constantly corrected and fixed is what we believe allows us to be closer to perfection than sources that enshrine errors and mistakes permanently and don't let them be fixed. --Jayron32 14:40, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Since this edit to this Help Desk is the only edit from the IP address, it is not even possible to determine whether there is any particular page that he or she is concerned about. However, as the other editors have pointed out, if correct information is replaced by incorrect information, we have a dispute resolution policy for addressing it. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:45, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Unless this person has the same IP address.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Limit displayed languages on the left

Hi,

Is there anyway to create a specific list of what languages to linked articles appear on the left of the page after a search has been performed? I switch often between languages but have to sift through many languages that will never be selected.

I would like to be able to choose the displayed languages from a list.

Thanks for your help!

Bri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsbaixo (talk • contribs) 13:08, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

@Bsbaixo: See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 136#How to adapt the languages list? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:50, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi,

That totally almost worked. I added the code to my global css file. Now when I go to a page it shows my list for about 1 second then gets over written by the entire list.

I am getting a triangle warning sign while I am editing the css file stating something about the li reference. Could it be that? Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsbaixo (talk • contribs) 14:38, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I tried the warning suggestion but the behavior remains unchanged.

Bri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsbaixo (talk • contribs) 14:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

@Bsbaixo: It works for me. I also get the triangle warning and ignore it. What is your browser and skin? You could try adding the code locally in your CSS instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:15, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

@Bsbaixo: Over at de.wp, User:TMg has suggested the following code:

#p-lang li {
	display: none;
}
#p-lang .interwiki-de, #p-lang .interwiki-en {
	display: list-item;
}

I have no idea if that’ll work for you, but it might be worth a try. Rgds ✦ _hugarheimur 21:28, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, still no luck. The new code posted above also works for about 2 seconds but then is over written with the whole list. I am using the Modern skin and FF 41.

Are there other CSS sources that load later that could be over writing the CSS I am adding? As always, thanks for helping! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsbaixo (talk • contribs) 15:38, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

@Bsbaixo: Try adding a space and !important before the semicolons. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:05, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

That TOTALLY worked! You just saved be about an hour a day and a whole lot of scrolling. Thanks for hanging in there! Brian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsbaixo (talk • contribs) 12:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information

At [ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Confidentiality_agreement_for_nonpublic_information ] the page says "By typing your name below, clicking the check box, and clicking the “Sign Document” ("Sign Document") button below, you acknowledge that..." but i see no place to type a name, no checkbox, and no sign document button. All I see is a non-clickable "submit" button. (Tried it on firefox, opera, and google chrome) do other people see the same thing, or is it just me? --Guy Macon (talk) 14:32, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I haven't tried it, but did you see this: meta: Confidentiality_agreement_for_nonpublic_information/How_to_sign Rwessel (talk) 14:46, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

(e/c) @Guy Macon: The mbox above it, links to How to sign and as you can see, these agreements are signed through phabricator which is where this fragment of text is displayed. See also here and here. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:47, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

establishing a link

I just tried to establish a link to amazon.com on a wikipedia page that I created and but the link did not "take."

It is under "collaborations" on the page for David V. Chartrand, journalist-author. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfitzpatr (talk • contribs) 14:56, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

In your most recent edit you surrounded the text with nowiki tags, so that prevents anything between the tags from being regarded as a link. In any case there are at least 2 reasons why such a link there would be inappropriate. Firstly we don't put external links in the body of an article, see WP:external links. Secondly there is no reason to provide an advertising link to one specific supplier such as Amazon; if you use an ISBN link, it will provide means for searching a number of sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:08, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

How do I correct errors in sources/footnotes?

A page I've been editing - and which I recently visited (Hawks, band) - shows some errors in the footnotes/citation sources. I have identified some of the errors and would like to correct those errors. I have not been able to find out how to accomplish this task either through a brief look at the Help Desk or here. Can someone point me to an answer or help directly? Thanks!THX1136 (talk) 16:26, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

It looks like you're referring to Hawks (band). The best place to start is checking out WP:REFB. Tiggerjay (talk) 16:32, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

You haven't given any indication of your problem. If you don't know where to edit the reference then edit where the reference is used in the article text and not where it's displayed in the references section. If you don't know how to edit the whole page at once then click the "Edit" tab at top. If you don't know which change to make to the reference then click the "help" link at the error message, and if you still have problems then say which reference you need help with. Please be specific when you ask for help. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:48, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

For example ref 5. says it has first1 but lacks last1. If you click the up arrow you will find a place where the reference is placed. That is in a History section. When you open it for edit you'll find a pair of <ref>...</ref> tags with a citation template between them: {{cite web|first=Joe|...}}. The {{cite web}} template expects the author's last name if the first name is given. However the source is a blog entry and its author remains semi-anonymous, signing just by name. You may for example replace the parameter name first with author – it's assumed that author parameter contains a complete indication of the person.

Another example: ref. no 6 says access-date seems invalid. And it actually is: the year is 32013, while it probably should be 2013 (the reference has been added on August 5: [1]).
CiaPan (talk) 17:27, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

 Fixed --CiaPan (talk) 09:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

where ask help from other wikieditor?

OP not good use mediawiki syntax, not patience try learn so seek other editor help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahfuzur rahman shourov (talk • contribs) 17:08, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

You're in the correct place. Just go ahead and ask your question, or let us know what specific problem you're having, and someone should be along shortly to help you out. We have another help location at The Teahouse, which is more designed for new users, but you may also find help there. --Jayron32 17:13, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

OP want editor who will make list table for a episode pageMahfuzur rahman shourov (talk) 17:24, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

@Mahfuzur rahman shourov: Possibly you could browse through some pages listed at Special:AllPages/list of episodes and use one of them as a pattern. --CiaPan (talk) 11:14, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Internal link without underline

Resolved

I'm sorry, after I asked my question Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2015_September_28#Internal_link_without_underline two weeks ago, it fell off my watchlist.

In many cases, such as in Chinese numerals, the underscore under links is misleading. Is there a way to link without the underlines? — Sebastian 18:01, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

The problem is that a link such as [[wikt:十|十]] renders as 十, which looks like a different character altogether. Some replied that those are interwiki links, but the problem also exists for Wikipedia internal links, and can be reproduced even with our own familiar alphabet, e.g. [[F]] - F appears like an "E". (Your font may vary.)

The solutions offered focused on how I can change my own display, but that's not why I was asking. I want to make our articles clear and unmistakable for all our readers. One template that seems to do that is {{IPA_link/core}}: "{{IPA_link/core|IPAsym name=Eff|ipa symbol=F}}" renders nicely as "{{IPA_link/core}}". But what is it in that template that does this? The relevant part seems to me "{{square bracket open|2}}Eff{{!}}F]]", but that still renders with the underscore as F. — Sebastian 19:39, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

<span class="nounderlines">[[Main Page]]</span> produces Main Page, but if you want this to be Wikipedia-wide without adding this coding everywhere, you'd have to request a change to the site's CSS. --Alden Bates (talk) 20:18, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Alden Bates, that answers my question. Matter closed. — Sebastian 21:02, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't see underlined links anywhere at Wikipedia unless I hover the mouse over them or choose Cologne Blue as skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. What is your browser, and what is your skin and "Underline links" setting at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? Do you also see underlined links when you log out? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:24, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Isn't link formatting a browser-specific (rather than a Wikipedia skin-specific) option. I have my browser set up not to display underlining for any hypertext link on any internet site.--ukexpat (talk) 12:56, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

copyright infringement

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

Dear Sir

I’m hoping this e-mail reaches the right person/department for it attempts to forewarn you of a serious discrepancy of publishing law. You can also appreciate the enormous task in hand for me to locate the intended publisher in question of which there are many in the west coast of the USA.

I am a professional illustrator based in the UK and I was invited by the author to illustrate his book entitled [personal details redacted].

He is under the impression he has already paid me for my work involved and which I can assure you I have received no payment or issued any receipts. He has now taken this work out of the UK , approaching publishers on the west coast claiming ownership. He has flatly refused to co-operate in this matter and has resulted in him assaulting me attacking me and putting me in hospital. This matter is also the subject of an on going copyright infringement lawsuit here in the UK and not due for completion for another 9 months.

In other words he has stolen my creative genius to pursue his own selfish greed which I’m sure you agree if you want to preserve the very nature of honest business and publishing in the US does not meet with your criteria. I have constantly instructed him he has no right to approach any publisher until full payment is received. You will find a copy of the invoice as an attachment. Until this is satisfactorily resolved I will ask you NOT to get involved with the book or the author for he is nothing but a low life thief and fraudster and you obviously will not want to be cited in this matter in the UK. I am also very well aware, as in the UK great efforts are taken to keep our business at the highest professional standards, free from scandal, malice, fraud and dealing with such people so, if by chance this e-mail has reached the wrong persons I would appreciate it if you would forward it on to the right people.

I am also able to send you sufficient proof the artwork is my creation at a later date. If I can be of further assistance please don’t hesitate to contact me.

Yours Sincerely

[redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbrown0107 (talk • contribs) 20:07, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

• Sorry, no one here can provide legal advice. Please read Wikipedia:Legal disclaimer. If you have a specific legal issue you need to contact the Wikimedia Foundation regarding, Geoff Brigham is the foundation's legal counsel. His contact information can be found Here. --Jayron32 20:13, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

  Not even a Foundation legal issue, appears to be unconnected with Wikipedia or any of the Foundation's projects.--ukexpat (talk) 12:58, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

• Some personal information removed, as it pertains to legal accusations and the post is probably in the wrong forum or website. Please follow the provided links, if this is indeed a Wikipedia-related complaint. GermanJoe (talk) 20:19, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Merge error

I've just performed a merge per WP:FMERGE (diff), but, unfortunately, I misspelt the source page title in the edit summary. Is there anything that needs to be done to correct the error? Tevildo (talk) 23:42, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

@Tevildo: Edit summaries cannot be changed but attribution to the source is required by our license when content is copied between pages. You can make a dummy edit with the right link in the edit summary. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:30, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Tevildo (talk) 08:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

editing

why is it when ever I edit the Dance Theatre of Harlem page, it deletes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francisjohnlawrence (talk • contribs) 23:46, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

@Francisjohnlawrence: if you look at the article's history , you will see that "it doesnt delete", but that other editors have reverted your additions and frequently given explanations "remove lists of non-notable people" and "RV addition of non-notables, per WP:WTAF, WP:NOTADIRECTORY, WP:V, and WP:COI". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Login mistake

I made two edits I made two edits here before I realized I was not login. Naturally my IP address shows. Is there a way to correct this on history? Cheers. Grahamboat (talk) 23:54, 13 October 2015 (UTC) before I realized I was not login. Naturally my IP address shows. Is there a way to correct this on history? Cheers. Grahamboat (talk) 23:54, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

@Grahamboat: Yes, please contact the WP:OVERSIGHT team and you may want to mention the edit here as well. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:20, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Note that oversight can hide the IP address for privacy reasons but not reassign the edit to your account. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)