Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Weapon dance/1
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- Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:16, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Article was promoted in 2006 with a very limited review by today's standards. As the article stands today, I have concerns about its compliance with criteria 1b, 2b, and 2d.
1b: The lead of the article is not a summary of the body, as is required by MOS:LEAD. Much of the content of the lead does not appear in the body at all (e.g. the Spartan pyrrhichios is not discussed in the body; the claim that "tribalism ... usually gives rise to such folk dances" does not appear in the body). I also see aesthetic claims about specific dances made in Wikipedia's voice in violation of MOS:WTW, e.g. the sword dance Choliya "has a very beautiful and graceful form"; "The Jerusema ... is an interesting kind of hybrid war dance".
2b: I count fifteen paragraphs in the body which do not end with a citation. At least one specific claim, that Morris dance commemorates battles between Christians and Muslims between the 12th and 15th century, I am actively sceptical of. I also found one claim which does not seem to appear in the cited source: "A sub-type of the Khattak Wal Atanrh known as the Braghoni involves the use of up to three swords and requires great skill to successfully execute".
2d: This from the first source I checked; I would consider this too-close paraphrasing if I found it when reviewing an article:
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| In a few isolated sections of Europe, a rather savage male combat dance survives. In the villages of the Transylvania Alps and Carpathian mountains, before Twelfth Night and Whitsunday, nine men from nine villages assemble for the Joc de căluşari or căluş, a rite of initiation. The men engage in fierce battle with sticks, which used to be bloody and sometimes fatal. | Another kind of round dance survives in a few isolated sections of Mid-Europe and is gradually disappearing. It forms a part of the magic rites of brotherhoods who have gone through an ordeal of initiation. The most savage of these is the Roumanian Joe de Calusari 'horse-play' in villages of the Transylvania Alps and Carpathian mountains. Before Twelfth Night and Whitsunday nine men assemble from nine neighboring villages. They are initiated by a leader into the mystical gestures and figures of their dance; and they put on belled boots and ribboned hats and take an oath under a sword. In some villages they blacken their faces. Their troop includes a masked fool, a goat-masker, a transvestite, and a standard-bearer with a decorated pole surmounted by a horse's head. The men leap about wildly in a circle around the fool or lean on the sticks in their hands. With the sticks they engage in fierce battle, formerly bloody and even fatal. |
- I have notified the nominator, reviewer, main article contributor, and GA sweeps reviewer, but none are currently active. Also notified the relevant wikiprojects Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 19:53, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- certainly below standards in its current state; improvement is urgently required. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Every paragraph needs to be checked against its citation because most of the text appears to be unrelated fluffing the editor did to call whatever it is specifically a "weapon dance", which the lede seems to want to define as combat-oriented or combat-derived, but then most of the examples are anything but. It may just need WP:TNT if there's no actual scholarly/encyclopedic "thing" that is a "weapon dance" (as opposed to, say, a sword dance, which is an actual cohesive topic.) Since some of the dances here don't have their own article, then failing finding an RS giving a cohesive definition, this article article would be better reformed as a "List of martial dances" or something like that (the Talk page notes someone added Capoeira, which notably generally has no weapons, so clearly the article does not have any cohesive scope as-is). SamuelRiv (talk) 09:00, 16 January 2024 (UTC)