Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of Carolina Panthers seasons/archive1
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The list was kept by PresN via FACBot (talk) 12:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of Carolina Panthers seasons (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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I am nominating this for featured list removal because it fails a number of criteria:
- 1. Prose: the prose is not professional, with short choppy sentences, as well as long run-on sentences.
- 2. Lead: the Lead could use some work, maybe highlighting some key coaches or eras of the team's existence. Also, needs to be updated.
- 3b. Comprehensiveness: primary issue here, the list lacks any inline citations in the lead and limited inline citations in the table (just to a few of the awards). Excluding source 5, all the other inline cites are to dead links. The general list of references include a few dead links as well. It is also very unclear where the whole table itself is cited to.
- 4. Structure: the structure of the table doesn't coincide with the accepted structure of these lists, specifically the summary of total wins. Also, the inclusion of "owners" doesn't seem consistent with other season lists.
- Accessibility: the list lacks all accessibility features expected of WP:FL today, both in the table, in the legend (using just colors) and no alt text on the lone photo.
The list was nominated 15 years ago when standards were quite different. That said, the complete lack of sourcing and accessibility issues bring this up to becoming a need to either improve or delist. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:04, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- This definitely needs a near total rework. I might have some time to take a stab at resolving these problems, but as-is there's clearly problems. Toa Nidhiki05 18:25, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Just as a heads-up, Gonzo_fan2007, I'm taking up the challenge here. I've reworked the table to be compliant with policy - I think. Take a look and let me know. It now has proper citations and formatting, and I removed the owner column. I've also reworked the entire lead, adding citations to all claims. I also added the alt text. Let me know if anything else is needed. Toa Nidhiki05 19:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Wow! Nice (quick!) work Toa Nidhiki05. A few more nitpicky things:
- You can use the {{Abbrlink}} template for the player/coach awards (i.e. COTYTooltip Coach of the Year)
- In the legend, add a non-breaking space before the icon (i.e. Conference champions #). Also do this in the table or make it superscript.
- Use the {{Win–loss record}} template for all the records in the table.
- Note b should be added to the 2019 coaches.
- You can link List of Carolina Panthers head coaches in the header of the table.
- You could add a few notes clarifying some things. Other season lists have notes for when coaches have been fired mid-season and when the NFL has changed the number of games in a season. See List of Green Bay Packers seasons for a few examples.
- Ref 25 needs an access-date.
- I'm not sure the list of general references or the external link is necessary anymore. I also have seen a "See also" section with History of the Carolina Panthers in it.
- I don't have any major qualms with it after those items. Amazing work! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:48, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey Gonzo_fan2007, I believe I've handled all of these except the Win-loss record in table. Not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean in the coaches column? Toa Nidhiki05 02:40, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep, in the coaches column. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. That should be the last one. Toa Nidhiki05 04:41, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I have no more comments Toa Nidhiki05. Kudos to you for knocking this out so quickly! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:25, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. That should be the last one. Toa Nidhiki05 04:41, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep, in the coaches column. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey Gonzo_fan2007, I believe I've handled all of these except the Win-loss record in table. Not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean in the coaches column? Toa Nidhiki05 02:40, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Wow! Nice (quick!) work Toa Nidhiki05. A few more nitpicky things:
- Just as a heads-up, Gonzo_fan2007, I'm taking up the challenge here. I've reworked the table to be compliant with policy - I think. Take a look and let me know. It now has proper citations and formatting, and I removed the owner column. I've also reworked the entire lead, adding citations to all claims. I also added the alt text. Let me know if anything else is needed. Toa Nidhiki05 19:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As the nominator now has no issues and no one else has commented, closing as kept. --PresN 04:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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