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Vidya Balan filmography edit

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Nominator(s): KRIMUK90 ✉ 09:50, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After successfully taking Vidya Balan's biography and awards page to featured status, I am nominating a fully-sourced and well-written listing of Vidya's film, television and music video appearances. As usual, look forward to lots of constructive comments. KRIMUK90 ✉ 09:50, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Seattle (talk) 04:24, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments:
  • No DAB links; no dead links
Fixed.
I'm not sure how to go about this, other than wait for a reviewer to confirm the license.
Seattle The image has now been reviewed at commons. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 15:43, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Slashes should be avoided in the "Role" section per MOS:SLASH
Changed.
  • References in the "Films" section should be ordered (the references in the Parineeta row, for instance, should be [16] [29] instead of the current construction)
Done.
  • following which she made several unsuccessful attempts at a film career. what made the attempts unsuccessful? Can you be specific?
Explained.
  • a top-grossing comedy film in what context? top-grossing worldwide, among Hindi films?
Tweaked.
  • to little success personal, financial, what context?
Tweaked to say commercial failure.
  • Can you merge the lead into three paragraphs? The fourth paragraph seems awkwardly tacked on to the lead. Seattle (talk) 21:02, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merged.
Seattle Thank you for the comments. :) I have addressed the issues. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 02:02, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • References in the "Ishqiya" row need flipped. Seattle (talk) 18:38, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, sorry. Another editor has fixed this. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 02:09, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
FrB.TG
  • Krimuk, please reduce the number of awards mentioned in the filmography as she has won so many awards. She has won Best Actress (Filmfare) awards thrice. You could add the awards just in one line instead of mentioning them in each sentence.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 11:01, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's important to know which films she won the Filmfare Awards for.
Indeed it is but you could add something like "she won the Filmfare Awards for Best Actress for Paa, The Dirty Picture, and Kahaani" instead of mentioning them in each sentence of the films. This is just to avoid repetition as most of the sentences start with something like "for her performance in XYZ, she won an award of ABC".--FrankBoy (Buzz) 16:10, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, changed. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 01:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, the third line of third para is really long. Consider splitting the sentence.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 11:07, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've split the long sentence. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 14:56, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the comments FrB.TG! -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 01:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to see the featured star on the top of the list. I support for this one and thanks a ton for yours on mine.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 13:15, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! :) -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 14:59, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Cowlibob (talk) 10:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
*Alt text needed for main image
Added.
  • reword suggestion for third sentence "However these attempts failed for a number of reasons including being replaced by other actresses."
Actually, she was replaced by other actresses in all those films, so I think this is okay.
  • Could mention the Bengali film award for her debut role and the Filmfare award for best debut for Parineeta
Added the filmfare award.
  • Hindi wikilink
Wikilinked.
  • Reword of Lage raho sentence. "The following year, she played a radio jockey opposite Sanjay Dutt in Rajkumar Hirani's Lage Raho Munnabhai, a highly successful comedy sequel."
I am trying to make the text a little less monotonous, that's why a different sentence structure. I can change it if it is too jarring of course.
  • In term of the highly successful bit, I try to avoid making such comments as success. Since you didn't specify commercial or critically, I'm going to presume both. The box office source says 120 crore but we don't know on what production/marketing budget. There is also the issue of how much an actor contributes to the success of a film. One review is not enough to support the critical acclaim.
I have added a different source for it's commercial success, which includes a "verdict" column.
I would remove the The Hindu ref for this film as it doesn't add much apart from saying she is starring in the film.
  • "Vidya starred in five films in 2007; playing a variety of roles."
Done.
  • I think criticisms about "styling" of an actress are more suitable for a celeb mag than an encyclopaedia.
Under normal circumstances I would agree with you, but her poor styling in the film almost cost Vidya her career. Even in her biography, I have given importance to the criticism.
  • three films were commercially successful - only the gross is given and not the budget so unclear if that ref supports it.
Included a source with a "verdict" column.
  • Before I do a check through the refs later, can you make sure that each ref supports the film appearance, name of role, director, year, any awards, any cameo appearances in songs (including the name of the song)
  • A comment from non-nominator. @Cowlibob: Since year, role, director etc. (present in this or any filmography) do not contain any additional analysis and can be easily verified, I don't think that a ref. has to contain each information i.e. year of release, role, direction etc. and not every ref. contains each information. A mention that the subject was involved in the film is enough, I think.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 18:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it normally is, but in this list the refs I provided do include all the information.
It's about being verifiable. Simply citing that a person starred in a film, doesn't confirm everything. Roles they played etc. should be verifiable on the article.
Well explained. Agree with you, Cow.--FrankBoy (Buzz) 13:40, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • For music videos her role in the video.
Vidya was unnamed in all the videos, so I didn't see the need to include a column saying "unnamed" for all of them.
They don't need names. According to the refs, she played a "Bengali bride" in Euphoria's video, "Bengali girl" in Pankaj's video, and maybe a google search could find the others.

Cowlibob (talk) 12:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Added.
Cowlibob Thank you for the comments! :) -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 02:19, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • could mention that the music videos were directed by Pradeep Sarkar who would go on to direct her in Parineeta as it probably played a part in her getting that role.
Yup, added.
  • center the refs looks nicer.
Done.
  • Ref 6 only confirms the Parineeta win so is not needed for the Filmfare awards for Kahaani etc. I can't see the confirmation of the award for Paa but the others are present. Repeat this ref in the table next to Paa when you find it.
Added new ref.
  • Need ref for role in Guru as current on just says she appears in it.
Added new ref.
  • This ref says: her role in Salaam was "Tehzeeb Hussain" [[2]].
Thanks for the ref. Added.
  • Sajid Khan should go to Sajid Khan (director)
Done.
  • Ishqiyya needs ref for nomination for the Filmfare Actress Award. Critics is cited.
Added new ref.
  • According to the 2nd ref for Euphoria the name of the song is "Kabhi aana tu meri gali" but if Saavn is more reliable then fair enough.
People generally tend to call it "Kabhi aana tu meri gali", but in the album cover the song is titled "Aana meri gully".

Cowlibob (talk) 11:58, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cowlibob These have been addressed as well. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 02:03, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Krimuk90: What was the name of character in Parineeta? Ref 5, Ref 7 and the variety ref in the table say it's Lolita.
It's a Bengali name, though it is pronounced "Lolita", it's always written as "Lalita". The reviewers probably wrote the way it was pronounced in the film.-- KRIMUK90 ✉ 01:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • This one is just personal preference, usually I go for the most up to date good quality image of the person and it's now 2015 so it's strange to have a pic from 2011. Cowlibob (talk) 14:25, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's not too long back, is it? Just 4 years, and she looks the same now. I personally like this picture. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 01:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support All sorted. Well done! I don't know if 2 lists + a FA count as a FT but a great effort on these articles nonetheless. Cowlibob (talk) 10:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the thorough review Cowlibob. Much appreciated. :) And yes, I will be taking her to FT next. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 11:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh wow! In fact I was gonna suggest you the same, Krimuk! Anyway all the best for your filmography and featured topic :) --FrankBoy (Buzz) 20:39, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Amazing list by Krimuk90. You must complete your "Vidya Balan" trilogy on Wikipedia.—Prashant 21:41, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Prashant. -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 01:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! :) -- KRIMUK90 ✉ 13:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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