Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/The Veronicas discography/archive1

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The Veronicas discography

Featured list candidates/The Veronicas discography/archive1

Nominator(s): Till 10:11, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I have worked on it all day, fixed the lead, charts, sections, tables and references, and think it meets the WP:FLC. Till 10:11, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Statυs (talk) 00:36, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Status:

Press releases, from record labels, are not reliable sources for sales. Labels often inflate them.
- Which one is the press release? Till 22:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - The one from Business Wire. Statυs (talk) 23:48, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Removed. Till 00:11, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Veronicas: Mtv.com Live EP is missing.
- Added. Till 00:11, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Charts should match up in the albums and singles sections.
- I'm not sure what you mean here, sorry. Till 22:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - For album positions, you have: AUS, BEL FL, FRA, IRE, MEX, NLD, NZ, SWI, UK and US. For singles, you have: AUS, AUT, CAN, GER, IRE, NLD, NZ, SWI, UK, US. The same countries should be used throughout the article. Statυs (talk) 23:48, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Removed Belgium, France and Mexico. Till 23:59, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Missing sources for "Other appearances" and "Songwriting credits" section. They are also not present in the infobox. Also, I'm unsure on what songwriting credits have to do with their discography - a discography being an artist's releases.
- Removed and added to infobox. Till 22:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Everything's sourced now. Till 00:05, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Statυs (talk) 14:00, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TBrandley (talk) 18:52, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"The Veronicas, 2009" change comma to "in" perhaps
- Done. Till 02:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"The Secret Life of... was" add a comma just before "was"
- Done. Till 02:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"including "Everything I'm Not" and "When It All Falls Apart"; both reached" check your grammar at the end, would suggest adding a "they" just after the semi-colon
- Fixed. Till 02:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The table in the other appearances section does not meet WP:DTT, add table captions to ensure it does
- I don't know what that is, sorry. Till 02:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The table in the other appearances section does not meet WP:ACCESS, add scope cols and rows to ensure it does
- I don't think I know how to do that. Till 02:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Any external links, with WP:ELNO in mind?
- Added Allmusic to the "General" references. Till 04:05, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise seems very good. TBr and ley 01:46, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Till 02:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Good work. TBr and ley 18:52, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Till 02:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 13:26, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

My perennial question, where are release dates for albums and associated release territories referenced?

This needs to be addressed, as it is now standard practice for these to be referenced. I wouldn't feel comfortable promoting this list with this unaddressed.NapHit (talk) 05:22, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Added sources. Till 08:00, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You also need to add the region the release date is referring to. For instance it appears the fist release date is when it was released in Australia, as the website is Australian. One of the EPs is not referenced and the other appearances table needs the song and year column swapping and needs row scopes adding. NapHit (talk) 10:07, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All the release dates are for Australia, they are an Australian duo. I don't see why adding the region is necessary in this context. I already attempted to find a source for the unreferenced EP but I couldn't find one. I checked Allmusic, JB Hi-Fi, iTunes, Amazon, and others but none of them have it. Till 14:10, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They may be an Australian duo, but the reader shouldn't have to assume the release dates are referring to Australia it should be explicit. The region is needed as the releases vary in those regions, so its necessary to know which region the date is referring to. Also if you can't find a source for the unreferenced EP how do you know it was released on 1 August 2006? NapHit (talk) 03:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't, that's just what the Wikipedia article said. Till 03:59, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

as wiki is not a reliable source you'll have to remove it until you come across a reliable source that gives the release date. NapHit (talk) 04:24, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the release date, or remove the entire EP? Till 05:18, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

the release date, just put the year.NapHit (talk) 06:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. Till 07:11, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What does "2ca" mean in the infobox?
- No idea. It was there before I began editing the article. I've corrected it. Till 01:03, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"the album experienced success in Australia," why not "the album was successful in..."?
- Changed. Till 00:40, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"certified quadriple Platinum" I guess you mean quadruple, and I suggest you link "certified" appropriately.
- Linked and corrected spelling. Till 00:40, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"a top twenty hit in " I imagine some hyphens missing here, e.g. "top-twenty"
- A reviewer from FAC told me that hyphens are invasive and should not be used. Till 00:40, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well that individual was incorrect. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:56, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Added hyphens. Till 13:27, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"was released two years following the release of The Secret Life of...." why not just say what year it was released?
- Corrected. Till 00:40, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The intro stops coverage of the band's discog in 2007, what happened next?
- Added release of "Lolita". Till 00:40, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Our article has a capital O in The Secret Life Of..., why not here?
- MOS:CT clearly states that the first and last words in a title are always capitalized.
  - Yep... so why does that not apply here.....?! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:55, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Sorry lol </3 Fixed it. Till 13:27, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Where is "The Veronicas: Mtv.com Live EP" referenced?
- It isn't, cause I can't find a source :( Till 13:30, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Where is non-charting "Popular" referenced?
- Added a source. Till 00:40, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Avoid double full stops in refs e.g. refs 20, 21 etc...
- Fixed. Till 00:40, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 04:52, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – didn't find much to comment on, so well done.

Infobox: The EPs link does not work. Furthermore, the number of EPs is supposed to be 4, not 3.
- Fixed both. Till 03:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Infobox: Also, the infobox says that she released 2 video albums, yet where are they in the list?
- Well, the video albums are kind of part of the live albums. There is a CD and DVD. Till 03:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - The infobox already includes live albums, so the video albums number is redundant and can cause confusion. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 04:21, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Okay, I guess you want me to remove it. Which I've done now. Till 04:35, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Infobox: 12 music videos, not 11.
- They have appeared in 12 music videos. I've corrected it in the lead. Till 03:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Grammar: "...which reached the top-ten in Australia and earned Gold certification." – no need for the hyphen there. "Top ten" isn't an adjective.
- Removed. Till 03:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Grammar: "Musically, Hook Me Up differed from its predecessor..." – when describing work, use simple present.
- Done. Till 03:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Grammar: "...which charted in the top-forty of the Australian Singles Chart and was certified Gold." – again, no hyphen.
- Removed. Till 03:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Tables: In the live albums table, why not just leave the cell blank if there was no certification? That's what's done down in the Singles table.
- Fixed. Till 03:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing: What makes Undercover a reliable source?
- From their 'About Us' page: "With a long established credibility within the music industry, UNDERCOVER works directly with all major and independent record labels and promoters in Australia as well as labels, publicists and promoters in the USA and UK." Seems reliable to me. Till 03:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Citation: In ref 22, why is "Yahoo! News" italicized if it is a web source? —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 00:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Unitalicized. Till 03:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support – I feel this list satisfies the FL criteria. Great work. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 04:52, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Till 04:55, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support I took time to go through this article and honestly, there is nothing to comment on here. So confidently, I vote for this list to be promoted as a featured one. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:26, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Till 10:56, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Amazing job. Well done. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 06:18, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Till 10:56, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks very good to me. Well done! I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 11:19, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Till 04:39, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Well-written, reliably sourced and overall solid. Good work. —PKS:1142 · ^(TALK) 18:32, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Till 02:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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