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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Portland Trail Blazers all-time roster edit

Nominator(s): ZooBlazer 23:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is my third NBA related FLC and my second one for the Portland Trail Blazers. I noticed that there was currently only one featured list for a team's all-time roster (Charlotte Hornets all-time roster), so I figured I would try to get a second one. ZooBlazer 23:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"The franchise was founded in the 1970–71 NBA season" - surely it was founded before that season?
"The team has qualified for the playoffs in 37 of their 54 season existence" - I don't think this is quite right grammatically. I would suggest "The team has qualified for the playoffs in 37 of their 54 seasons in the NBA"
"Two Hall of Fame coaches, Wilkens and Jack Ramsay, have patrolled the sidelines for the Blazers, and two others, Mike Schuler and Mike Dunleavy, have won the NBA Coach of the Year award with the team" - is this relevant? The article is about the team's players, not coaches
Lillard image caption is a complete sentence so it needs a full stop
Colour and bold text to indicate something (in this case stats leader) doesn't meet accessibility requirements, as far as I am aware
Why do some players have a number in brackets after their name?
The tooltip for the "from" column says "School or country origin", but for those who came from overseas it doesn't list a country, it lists a team -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:28, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude I've addressed everything besides the color/bold for stat leaders. If the bold/color can't be used, is there something else that can be done? I think stat leaders are notable for this article. As for the numbers next to player names, those are the retired numbers. I didn't even realize it was missing from the key, so I added it. ZooBlazer 20:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Re: stats leader, yes, it's definitely worth noting but I don't think using colour + bold passes accessibility guidelines. I think you need to use another symbol...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude I changed it to a symbol, but I'm not sure if there's a way to make the key look better or not. I had to use a separate wikitable because if I changed the template, I'd mess up the other 29 teams and I don't have the time to go through all of them to manually update the stats leaders to the symbol. ZooBlazer 22:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@You didn't have to remove the colour, you could have left that in....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude I can re-add that, but the bold/color combo is what's part of the template, so the key still looks funky because of the extra table since I'm still swapping the bold for the symbol. ZooBlazer 17:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we need input from an accessibility expert on whether colour + bold is acceptable as an indicator of something.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN You helped out with the accessibility review on one of my previous FLCs. Are you able to help us out with this? ZooBlazer 20:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude I've changed the key recently as a result of unrelated changes on other related articles, so the lack of bold is no issue now. -- ZooBlazer 18:52, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just had another thought on the "from" column. Why does it show the college for players who were not drafted by Portland? By heading the column "from", it gives the impression (to me at least) that the player joined Portland from that college, but in the case of Detlef Schrempf, he joined Portland from the Seattle SuperSonics at the age of 36 and had been out of college for 14 years. I am no expert on basketball or even US sports in general, but this seems a bit odd to me now I think about it - surely it would be more relevant to show the team which the player actually joined Portland from (or alternatively give the column a different header).....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:34, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude It's reflective of how official NBA rosters are listed. As far as I've ever seen, they've listed the college or the international team they were last on before being drafted. Maybe instead of "from" it should be changed to pre-draft team" like it is here? Just not sure if that would be too long and mess up formatting. Or keep "from", but change the tooltip or add an efn to say pre-draft team? ZooBlazer 17:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, that's just weird (to me, at any rate). To me it doesn't seem to make much sense to mention the college team that someone like Schrempf played for more than a decade before he joined Portland in preference to the NBA team he actually joined Portland from. I would support the change to "pre-draft team" of "drafted to NBA from" to make it less confusing to readers. There's plenty of room in the column header for either option.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:47, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @ChrisTheDude I changed it to pre-draft team and updated the tooltip to hopefully make it even clearer. ZooBlazer 19:18, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - apologies, I forgot about this one...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:50, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MPGuy2824's comments

"(renamed the Moda Center in 2013)" to "(renamed to the Moda Center in 2013)".
Consider linking Retired number somehow. I wasn't familiar with the term.
The abbreviation/symbol table is quite cluttered. Consider splitting off a table only for the position abbreviations. Maybe you can show both tables side-by-side after that.
That's all I got. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MPGuy2824: Thanks for the comments. Everything has been addressed. -- ZooBlazer 07:49, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --Pres N 21:27, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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