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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 14:25, 20 July 2008 [1].

NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award

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I think this list is ready as it pretty much fulfills all criteria.—Chris! ct 22:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The nationality column might be more helpful if instead of the flag and the abbreviation of the country name, it simply had the country name. The manual of style policy on flags discourages the use of flags in cases like this. - Algorerhythms (talk) 00:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I will use country names instead.—Chris! ct 00:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Is there a reason the Nationality column isn't sortable, or is that just a holdover from when it contained flag icons? MeegsC | Talk 10:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I will make the column sortable. —Chris! ct 18:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, and Kevin Garnett are the only Defensive Player of the Year winners to have won NBA Most Valuable Player Award (MVP) during their careers; Jordan and Olajuwon both accomplished the feat in the same season. These facts should be referenced, and the second half of the sentence made clearer. The way it's worded now, it sounds like Jordan and Olajuwon won the two awards the same year (i.e. they shared them).
Done.—Chris! ct 22:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • You might need to cite the statement that 9 of the 14 teams with award winners have gone on to win championships too; I'll leave that to the FL specialists to decide!
Not sure if this really needs a citation because the table below clearly show this.—Chris! ct 22:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, but there's no indication of where you got that information either! Your "general references" don't show that the award-winner's team won the championship. MeegsC | Talk 21:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, I guess I will have to remove that sentence until I find a reference.—Chris! ct 01:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It would be too bad to remove the sentence, because it's an interesting stat—which presumably shows how much the DPOY contributes to the team's success. Is there a Wikiproject that might be able to help or might there be references in the various team articles? MeegsC | Talk 08:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will ask at the NBA Wikiproject to see if anyone will be able to help.—Chris! ct 20:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
From what people are telling me, that statement is incorrect. So, I guess it should not be in the lead.—Chris! ct 19:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • It would be interesting to know a bit more about the awarding of this prize. Who chooses which sportswriters get to vote? (The panel is only made up of 130 sportswriters, so that probably isn't everybody.) Do any radio/TV sportswriters vote, or only print writers? How do they vote? Is the award given in a ceremony, or is the player just named? Do they get a trophy or plaque or something? What does it look like? Is the award coveted by the players? Does it lead to bonuses or anything, like winning a Golden Glove does for some baseball players? Since this is the only article relating to this award, it would be good to get a bit more information... MeegsC | Talk 08:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will see what I can do. But sources are hard to found.—Chris! ct 22:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Use en-dash for the season year separator per WP:DASH.
    • "first-place " or "second place"? hyphen consistency required.
    • I think I'd prefer to see the Source (a) not in bold and (b) below the table.
    • Ref 10 says NBA is the work, all other refs using NBA.com say that NBA.com is the publisher. Consistent (a) name and (b) parameter use is needed.
    • Ref 9 title is actually just "Defensive Player of the Year"

The Rambling Man (talk) 15:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed everything except the last point. Ref 9 title is "Defensive Player of the Year Award Winners" according to here.—Chris! ct 19:29, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Doesn't look too bad, but I agree with Meegs when (s)he said to include some information about the awarding of the prize. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The lead has some of that info, but it doesn't cover every details. Besides, it is extremely hard to find a reliable source that can tell me these things. I will keep trying, but don't expect me to be able to address every points Meegs raised.—Chris! ct 19:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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