Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Miley Cyrus discography/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 19:12, 10 May 2011 [1].

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Miley Cyrus discography

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Nominator(s): ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 01:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all criteria to become a Featured List on Wikipedia. ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 01:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Comment Don't you think the lead is too long for such a young singer who has released only three studio albums, and probably has a long career ahead of her? With every new release, the lead will only become more bloated, and would need to be significantly rewritten. I suggest that rewriting be done now itself so that it can easily incorporate additions.—indopug (talk) 03:33, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• I don't think so because although she released three studio albums, she released five well-known soundtracks. And as her career expands, the discography will probably be split in half, such as Mariah Carey discography. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 20:36, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hmmm I've never been a fan of the tendency among pop-music editors to split discographies; but I guess that isn't relevant to this FLC.—indopug (talk) 02:38, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 11:32, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

*Quick Comments Extened plays: Spanian Platinum no ref? Done "Walt Disney" label should be wikilinked to Walt Disney Records Done Some references without a format=PDF parameter Done Some references without a language= parameter Which ones? -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 20:36, 6 April 2011 (UTC) German-language references 21, 23, 24, 34.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 09:50, 7 April 2011 (UTC) Done. Ref 21, 23, 24, 45, 46, 58, 59, 60 German (seriously, Dutch and German are not very similar); 85 Japanese Done. Ref 6: no need to link "Billboard. Nielsen Business Media, Inc." Done Ref 9, 17, 84: Check them up; see some errors.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 15:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC) Done

• Comment Look at Ref 99. Something's wrong there. Otherwise nice disco.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 11:32, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

• Done.

• ok then I'll Support. Regards.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 17:58, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

• Why isn't Hannah Montana discography completely merged here? Nergaal (talk) 04:36, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
  • What do you mean? -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 21:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Since Miley Cyrus discography covers all the Hanna Montana releases, why does the HM discog need to exist? Shouldn't it be a redirect to MC discog?—indopug (talk) 03:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Consensus is yet to be determined for that. But I'm thinking of keeping it and leaving as a discography for the Hannah Montana franchise (which includes more albums and singles) and not the fictional character, which makes more sense. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 21:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:50, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Comments – "It peaked at number on the Billboard 200...". Number itself is clearly missing. Done. "Meet Miley Cyrus spawned two singles, the first, 'See You Again', which became her first top ten hit in the United States." Change the first comma to a semi-colon, and remove "which". Flow is a bit off the way it is now. Done. "which peaked at number on the Billboard 200...". A forgotten number twice in the lead? This is a first for me in discographies. Done. "both which peaked at number two on the Billboard 200." Missing "of" before "which". Done. "being unable to duplicate prior success." Should it be "her prior success"? Done. The note at the bottom of several tables: "denotes releases that did not chart or was not released." Why is "was" being used for potential multiple releases. Shouldn't it be "were"? Done. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Comment Some might think this as being a bit pointy since I got into a discussion about it at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Backstreet Boys discography/archive1, but, <shrugs> that's for the closing director to decide. I was told there that this is common practice at discography pages recently, and I think it has to stop. "GER" and "SPA" mean nothing. More so for "SPA". I could accept "GER" in an Olympic- or football-related article, but that isn't the case here. We should use international standards for abbreviating country names when a differing standard hasn't been approved (such as in the two cases already mentioned). GER and SPA are not acceptable abbreviations in regular usage, and a list that "exemplifies Wikipedia's very best work" shouldn't be using them. So, while the article continues to uses abbreviations pulled out of our arses, I will oppose. Matthewedwards :  Chat  05:58, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm willing to change the abbreviations to anything, but the discussion should be moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discographies. Also, if the abbreviations are changed, how would you order the charts? By alphabetic order according to abbreviations or full English names? -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 17:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I would alphabetize by abbreviation, so "DER" comes before "FRA" (even though "France" is alphabetically before "Germany"), but it's up to you. Matthewedwards :  Chat  23:54, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

They have been changed. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 23:02, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Support Matthewedwards :  Chat  21:31, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 14:41, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Comments "which first aired in March 2006. " ref? Done. I find it odd that in the lead you have "triple platinum" i.e. uncapitalised platinum, but in the tables you have "3x Platinum"... Many FL discographies like Madonna albums discography follow the same procedure, as it in the text, certifications are in paragraphs and are treated as a regular noun (not a proper noun, which are supposed to be capitalized). Meanwhile, in the table, they are not. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 21:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC) "Cyrus then signed a record deal with Hollywood Records to launch a career under her own name." ref? What type of source is needed? It is sourced throughout the article that all material as herself have been released with Hollywood Records. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 21:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC) Two dates "as of (mid) 2010" - any updates considering it's nearly mid-2011? Nope, sorry. Since she hasn't released any material and, therefore not set any records, in over a year, updates are extremely scarce. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 21:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC) Other live albums calls both releases EPs, but yet there's only one EP listed. I guess this is ... okay ... but a little odd, are they live albums or live EPs? It's a complex explanation, but they are considered live albums because they are live... however they do have EP lengths. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 21:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC) Where is "I'm Still Good" referenced? The general references, like the Allmusic source, reference uncharted releases. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 21:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC) Recommend you specifically link these. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:21, 2 May 2011 (UTC) I don't think it needs it. Then, every single release would need a specific source. A general source should suffice. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 20:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC) No, every single which didn't chart anywhere should be individually cited. Otherwise I don't know how to prove they ever existed. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2011 (UTC) Provide links here, to you. Is that what you mean? Here they are: [2][3][4]. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 00:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC) No, I mean provide sources in the article. Amazon is interesting but is it really reliable? The Rambling Man (talk) 16:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC) I don't think they need specific sources if there is an overall source to warrant every single release's existence. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 20:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC) I do, and just about every discog passed through FLC provides individual and specific citation for releases that haven't charted anywhere. Recommend you check out a few of the recently promoted discogs at FLC to see what I mean. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC) Done. Same comment for "Nothing to Lose"? Done. And "Rockin' around the Christmas Tree" and "Are Your Ready". They didn't chart, how or where do I determine they ever existed? Done. "Can't Be Tamed - Mini DVD" needs an en-dash. Done. Note P - "ninety-aix" Done. Ref 1 format fail. Done. Ref 2 - en-dash please. Done. And ref 16. Done. and ref 32. Done. Check all others, there are many more... Done. You relink Media Control Charts in the refs, but you don't relink Billboard etc. Take a consistent approach to relinking (or not) in the refs. I don't believe there are any repeated links to Media Control Charts in the refs. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 21:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC) Did you look? 24, 25 both link it. As do 46 and 47. However, 59 to 61 and 67 don't link it... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:21, 2 May 2011 (UTC) Done. Also, if you only link once, make sure it's the first time. Done. Refs 95, 96, you cite a single page so it should be p. not pp. Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

• Support – I feel this list means the FL criteria. The only thing I find confusing is the singles as Hannah Montana. I'm not sure what you mean by that. Novice7 (talk) 15:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Singles that are credited to the character Hannah Montana. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 18:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

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