Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Mary Pickford filmography/archive1

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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 18:22, 5 January 2010 [1].

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Mary Pickford filmography

Nominator(s): Jimknut (talk) 22:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

• Featured list candidates/Mary Pickford filmography/archive1

I am nominating this for featured list because Mary Pickford ranks as one of the most important and influencial pioneers of cinema, and therefore warrants an outstanding filmography. I have arranged the list in a structure simular to the Charlie Chaplin filmography, which is now a featured list.Jimknut (talk) 22:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Comments Last time I checked there were two dead links here. I found only one. It's now fixed. "she was possibly the best-known woman in the world" - I'm not convinced a single reference from an author who appears to be not notable enough for a Wikipedia entry is enough to completely substantiate this claim. Actually there is a Wikipedia entry on Eileen Whitfield, although it's only a stub. I took out this item, though, and added (in a blue quote box) a quote from Adela Rogers St. Johns. I trust you'll find her to be a more "heavy-weight" source. "began acting on stage in 1900. She began " - began ... began - repetitious. Changed the second "began" to "started". " that she award a contract" she was awarded a ...? Changed. Is there a 1929 Academy Awards article you could link to in the lead? Changed to direct link at the Academy Award's website. Same for the 75 awards? Same as above. "As of 1909 " - perhaps 2009? WHOOPS!!!! Changed. Would you consider any of the unlinked films to be prominent i.e. notable enough to be redlinked? Yes, but there would be a lot of redlinking. I think all of her features and some of the Biography shorts should have their own articles. However, I would prefer to shape up this list first and create articles for the films afterwards. "handled th distribution" the. Changed. Does an en-dash in Director mean unknown? Or no director at all? Unsure, needs a note. Changed to "(unknown)". United Artists sections - notes seem to be something different from the other tables. What exactly do you mean by "Mary Pickford–United Artists" for instance? I changed the notes to read "A Mary Pickford Production<br>Released by United Artists" or a variation of that. Page ranges in refs need en-dash, not hyphen, e.g. refs 1, 2,13, 18, 19, 21, 22 etc. Changed to en-dashes. Ref 11 has spare full stop. All refs have stops now. Year ranges in ref need en-dash too, e.g. ref 16. Changed. Are those "websites" actually "External links"? They are now. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:49, 8 December 2009 (UTC) Care to ramble over it again, Rambling Man? Jimknut (talk) 00:39, 9 December 2009 (UTC) Watch out for spaced en-dashes per WP:DASH in the references and bibliography. I checked the en-dashes. They now look good to me. Accessdates for ref 1, shouldn't those be "References" rather than footnotes? An accessdate was added for ref 1. Jimknut (talk) 19:40, 9 December 2009 (UTC) The Rambling Man (talk) 18:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

• Support One thing, can we use the {{harvnb}} template for the book citaions? That way it is easy to link for a reader to a particular book. Otherwise a very comprehensive and informative list. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:58, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
  • {{harvnb}} added where appropriate. Jimknut (talk) 18:07, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
• Support Based on the same layout, style, etc as the Chaplin one, this is another fine workover. Excellent stuff! Lugnuts (talk) 09:33, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:06, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Quick comments – Biograph (1912–1913): "Except where noted all 26 films form this period are one-reelers." A typo is hiding in there. Fixed. State rights (1913–1914): Is State meant to be capitalized? If not, you might want to de-capitalize the one instance here. De-capitalized. Artcraft (1916–1918): "Pickford made 13 films for Artcraft release of which 11 survive complete." What purpose does "release" serve here? Is it part of the company's name? "release" removed. "In 1945, she her third husband". Missing word here. "and" added. References 17, 29 and 30 are missing publishers. Publishers added. I'm not crazy about citing her America's Sweetheart nickname to a book cover on Amazon.com. If one of the books used in the references can be used to cite this fact, that would be better to ensure reliability. Also, I normally wouldn't be that thrilled about citing a personal Tripod page extensively, but it appears to be from a film expert, so it should just pass muster. The book cover reference has remained but it's now supplement with a ref from the Whitfield bio. I'm not sure which Tripod page you're refering to. Hugh Munro Neely or Christel Schmidt? Mr. Neely is curator at the Mary Pickford Institute in Los Angeles. He has made many of Pickford's films available for release on DVD and has performed the musical accompaniment to most of them. He has also produced a documentary on Pickford (narrated and hosted by Whoopi Goldberg) and also many other documentaries about silent film stars (most of which have aired on Turner Classic Movies). I think we can safely consider him an expert. Christel Schmidt works for the Library of Congress and has been researching the films of Mary Pickford for over ten years. She was the curator of a Pickford exhibit that was presented throughout the United States in 2008. She also recently hosted a Los Angeles screening of Pickford Biograph shorts. I think we can safely consider her an expert as well. Found this in the reference section: "The Mary Pickford Institute for Film Eductation." Pretty sure that's another typo in the last word. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 01:43, 25 December 2009 (UTC) Corrected. Thanks for the help. Jimknut (talk) 18:16, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

• Support. I don't normally support without nit-picking, but the simple fact is that I couldn't find any nits. This is well written, comprehensive, well cited, there's no need for a sort function, and I cannot see any MoS faults. Nicely compliments Mary Pickford, which was a fascinating read. WFCforLife (talk) 11:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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