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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 18:14, 20 September 2008 [1].

Los Angeles Lakers seasons edit

I am nominating this article for FL with Chrishomingtang as I peer reviewed the article and believe it is ready for nomination. This article used the New York Yankees seasons format and was mostly created in my sandbox. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 20:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - An outstanding and great list that meets the FL? to the fullest extent, great work to all editors.--SRX 23:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support - I worked to bring the Yankees seasons list to featured status, and it's now being used as a model for other FLCs. As a result, this FAC reviewer has decided to make a special guest appearance at FLC (Come to think of it, I did review and support a golf list a while ago, but haven't reviewed anything here since.). Only having to review two paragraphs of prose is a nice change of pace as well. Here goes...

  • The various awards won need to be cited. There are two good ways to do this. You can reference pages that list the award winners, or use Basketball-Reference pages on the individual players and coaches.
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 03:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Should the Lakers' time in the National Basketball League be included? It may be confusing to the readers to say that they originated in Detroit, when that isn't reflected in the table.
I didn't include the NBL side as both of the featured lists (here and here) don't show it because I can't find the references to do so. I want the lists to be consistent. If you want me to add it on, and if other users also want it added on, I will do so. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 03:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Couple of reference nit-picks: Capitalize the publisher in reference 4 to match the other similar references. Also, remove the apostrophe from National Basketball Player's Association in ref 63.
DONE! the NBPA's name is with the apostrophe. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 03:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Lakers' 1972 title could be mentioned in the prose, even though it came against the Knicks. :-( Come to think of it, their run in the 1960s isn't mentioned either. I know they couldn't break through during this time, but a sentence on these two topics would be a nice addition.
I would try that if I have time to do so, but right, now, I'm just fixing the little things. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 03:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I add a line about the 1972 title.—Chris! ct 01:16, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It will take you a while to work on these, so let me know when these are done and I will review the prose then. Giants2008 (17-14) 02:55, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Back for the promised prose review.
  • "The Lakers popularity soared in the 1980s by winning five championships during a nine year span with the help of superstar Hall of Famers... Apostrophe for Lakers'. Hyphen for nine-year. By would be better phrased as "when they won". And watch the POV with "superstar". Saying the people in question are Hall of Famers should be enough.
  • Second paragraph: "the most finals appearances..." Capitalize finals?
  • "The Lakers also hold the record for the longest consecutive win streak (33) in U.S. professional team sports beginning on November 5, 1971 and ending on January 7, 1972." The organization of this seems a touch off. I would go with "The Lakers also hold the record for the longest winning streak (33) in U.S. professional team sports; the run started on November 5, 1972 and ended on January 7, 1972."
  • Have the Lakers missed the playoffs fewer times than any other NBA team? If so, that would be nice to have at the end of the second paragraph, if you can cite it. If not, consider adding the total number of NBA seasons at the end. That would make the statement more powerful without any POV concerns.
  • Photo caption: "Jerry West has been to 9 of the 29 NBA Finals appearances made by the Lakers." I recommend something like this: "Jerry West played in nine of the Lakers' 29 NBA Finals appearances"
That's all from me. Giants2008 (17-14) 20:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
DONE ALL! -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 23:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look okay. Links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit

Comment You need to include symbols in addition with the colours per WP:ACCESS NapHit (talk) 17:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I seriously dont get what you mean? Please explain it back to be in a more clearer version. -- K. Annoyomous24[c]
Where you have used colours to highlight certain seasons, achievements you need a symbol such as an asterik (*) along with the colour, such as used in this list. Hope that clears up the misunderstanding NapHit (talk) 13:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you look here, here, here, and here, and you click on any of the lists that have a blue link, I'm for sure none of them use symbols on theirs. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 00:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes but most of those lists are not up to this standard, on lists such as List of Denver Nuggets head coaches the symbols are used in addition with colours, so I see no reason why it can't be used here NapHit (talk) 14:52, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know that List of (Team name) head coaches lists put the symbol on but I am trying to be consistent with the other (Team name) seasons lists. Lets just wait until other users reply to this topic. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 00:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you'd like an example, take a look at New York Giants seasons, a page that I will nominate soon. There are a half-dozen symbols that I use, so just pick some that you like. Giants2008 (17-14) 04:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done —Chris! ct 05:48, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Good work NapHit (talk) 12:25, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • The symbols confuse me. What does "*" mean? How about "#"? And I have no idea how to even make the ¤ symbol on my keyboard :) In any case, perhaps expand the "Table key" to include symbols?
I show that in the color legend.—Chris! ct 21:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So both the color and the symbol indicate the same thing? I (personally) don't like that. It's confusing. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, per User:NapHit above, both symbols and color have to be used.—Chris! ct 05:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • It would be extra super wonderful if I could sort by "Win %" or any of the columns. I don't know that it's particularly possible for two reasons:
  1. The rowspan "Regular season" would have to go
  2. The two overlaying rows - "Minneapolis Lakers" and "Los Angeles Lakers" would both have to go. Or it would have to be two different tables.
For those reasons, I'm not sure it's worth it. But it *would* be neat to have sortable :)
Done —Chris! ct 21:43, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nice! Mind adding the "Season" table so people can return to the original order? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Will do—Chris! ct 05:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess that's it. I'll Conditionally Support if you add the symbols table. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fully Support. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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