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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 10 September 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of songs recorded by Ella Henderson edit

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Nominator(s): >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 11:39, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it has been newly created in the last few days following other FL examples such as List of songs recorded by Madonna. I want to demonstrate that an artist does not need to have a long career and 000s of releases to have things like a List of Songs page, and that for an artist like Ella Henderson who has written for others and released lots of featured singles good quality information can be found. I think this article is a good example of how these types of pages can look. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 11:39, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments from K. Peake edit

Resolved comments from K. Peake

Merge the first para with the second one per overly short size and the usage of full-stops is inconsistent on img text; this does apply to both sentences with or without commas. Remove or replace Daily Mirror, Evening Standard and Metro per WP:RSP. Outside of these concerns, good job on this list that is well-written and sourced! --K. Peake 20:29, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks KP! I copied the first para from List of songs recorded by Madonna but appreciate this does look odd. I've addressed your comments :) >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 22:29, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    This is looking better, but what exactly makes Vagalume a reliable source? --K. Peake 07:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    According to Vagalume is a media outlet and streaming app, the biggest in Brazil. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 18:21, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Support, congrats on fixing the issues and I already expressed the clear positives about this list above! --K. Peake 20:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments edit

  • "both as a guest and collaborative vocalist" - aren't those just the same thing?
  • I was trying to imply that Henderson has appeared as a co-lead and featured artist with other singers. Is that better wording?
  • I would have thought just "guest vocalist" would cover it...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Addressed >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 13:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Henderson began at a young age" - we all began at a young age :-) Think there are some words missing here
  • fixed
  • "according to her father Sean, At the age of two" - sentence seemingly ends with a comma
  • fixed
  • "entered the series nine" - either "the ninth series" or just "series nine", not "the series nine"
  • fixed
  • "Henderson would sign with" => "Henderson signed with"
  • fixed
  • "and begin work on her debut album" => "and began work on her debut album"
  • fixed
  • "Henderson would experience severe anxiety" => "Henderson experienced severe anxiety"
  • fixed
  • "between her first and second album" => "between her first and second albums"
  • fixed
  • "Between 2015 and 2019, Henderson would appear" => "Between 2015 and 2019, Henderson appeared"
  • fixed
  • Image caption: "American producer worked with Henderson on the song "The First Time"." - might be handy to mention his name :-D
  • fixed
  • There are multiple instances where you list different recordings of the same song separately. These are not different songs, so I see no real reason to list them separately. For example, for "Give Your Heart Away" or "Rockets", all the cells are identical, so you could simply have one row and put a footnote saying that an acoustic version was also available.
  • fixed
  • Notes are all complete sentences so need full stops
  • fixed

Quick comments

  • Note a: "This is a cover of the 1998 Cher of the same name." Pretty sure "song" needs to be added after the name here.
  • fixed
  • Note h: "A week later, second EP" needs "a" before "second".
  • fixed
  • This isn't a full source review, but I noticed that a bunch of references are missing publishers. I'd suggest added those before a source reviewer takes an interest in this page, to save time later. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:33, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Giants2008 in the past when I've tried to get GAs and FLs, publishers have been removed from websites and newspapers. If this is what is needed though, I've gone ahead and added in. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 13:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support from Z1720 edit

  • There's some biographical detail in the lede that I think is better placed in Henderson's main article, not here. A lot of text also makes it less likely that the reader will read it, especially if they are large paragraphs. I would suggest that the lede would focus on her musical inspirations for her songs. Some things that might be considered for removal are:
  • "Henderson demonstrated interest in music as a toddler according to her father Sean. At the age of two Henderson could sing the song "Tomorrow" from the musical Annie," - Removing this information would mean that sentence would start with her learning piano at 10 and songwriting at 13, which I think are more important to highlight than early singing.
  • removed
  • "Between the ages of 11 and 16, Henderson honed her skills as a residential student at Tring Park School for the Performing Arts in Tring." I'm not sure this is necessary
  • removed
  • "Henderson would later be the opening act for his 2017 tour Back from the Edge as well as co-write the 2021 song "Let's Go Home Together" together." -> "Henderson became the opening act for his 2017 tour Back from the Edge and they co-write the 2021 song "Let's Go Home Together"." To tighten up the language.
  • changed
  • "Although a second album was in production as early as 2016, " -> "Although a second album was in production in 2016," To tighten up the language
  • changed
  • "Henderson's debut release for Major Tom's was also released," Delete also as unnecessary
  • removed
  • "At the same time, Henderson was co-lead artist on the song "Crazy What Love Can Do" with David Guetta and Becky Hill." I'm not sure what year this happened in based on the lede (my guess is 2022) but I suggest a reword to clarify when "at the same time" is
  • I've fixed this
  • Note c: Why doesn't this have a citation?
  • I've added a reference for this

Image check

  • No licencing concerns
  • thanks
  • It is difficult to see the Rudimental band in their image. Can the image be zoomed in, or a different image used?
  • changed to slightly different image
  • James Arthur's image has a large caption. Suggest cutting out most of the caption and just highlighting that they wrote a song together.
  • changed

Those are my thoughts. Please ping me when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Z1720 these have been done. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 14:55, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Comments were addressed. Z1720 (talk) 14:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed- while I prefer publishers to be present, it's not required and you are consistent. Promoting. --PresN 20:08, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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