Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of monarchs of England and Scotland
List of British monarchs edit
Also looks very good to me. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
Support. Ditto.Now neutral in the light of today's addition to the talk page. Filiocht | Blarneyman 11:42, May 19, 2005 (UTC)- Neutral, This isn't really a list of all the monarchs of Great Britain. It's only a list of the monarchs of England and Scotland before and after their union. Wales is in Great Britain, and it had monarchs before being incorporated into England. The Picts and the Isle of Man and Wessex, etc. were all "British" kingdoms with monarchs. So if the others are incorporated into this article, or this is moved to a better name, then I'll support it. --Dmcdevit 05:47, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
- Also, it lacks images. --Dmcdevit 06:08, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
- Images added. The title is rather difficult: I thought the lead paragraphs and first section explained its scope rather well. Would List of Kings of England, of Scotland, of Great Britain, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland be any better? -- ALoan (Talk) 13:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- How about List of monarchs of England and Scotland? Other lists can then point to this one at the point where their kingdoms were joined to the English or Scottish thrones. --Theo (Talk) 13:27, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- The brevity of this appeals more. Filiocht | Blarneyman 15:43, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
- How about List of monarchs of England and Scotland? Other lists can then point to this one at the point where their kingdoms were joined to the English or Scottish thrones. --Theo (Talk) 13:27, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- Images added. The title is rather difficult: I thought the lead paragraphs and first section explained its scope rather well. Would List of Kings of England, of Scotland, of Great Britain, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland be any better? -- ALoan (Talk) 13:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- Also, it lacks images. --Dmcdevit 06:08, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
- Support well organized, although with a problematic name. Maybe it's the medievalist in me, but when I see British Kings, I think Vortigen, etc. List of monarchs of England and Scotland seems, to me, to be a good name for this article. Also, why start with Offa? - Dsmdgold 13:09, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
- There is a negative comment on my suggestion to change the title at Talk:List of British monarchs. There is also some (rather unhelpful) discussion of "why Offa" rather than Edgar or Aethelstan or Alfred the Great (as is used at List of monarchs of England and Kingdom of England). -- ALoan (Talk) 13:46, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- Oftentimes the creators are unwilling to do the needful. We could go the WP:RM route. I like Dsmgold's suggestion. And I'm sure it's the medievalist in me screaming about the independent kingdoms of Kent and Wessex and Sussex, etc. (And if you consider yourself a medievalist, maybe you could check out Black Death, I am having it peer reviewed right now.) I'll change my vote to support when the name's cleared up. --Dmcdevit 17:12, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- There is a negative comment on my suggestion to change the title at Talk:List of British monarchs. There is also some (rather unhelpful) discussion of "why Offa" rather than Edgar or Aethelstan or Alfred the Great (as is used at List of monarchs of England and Kingdom of England). -- ALoan (Talk) 13:46, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: I think
thea name change would be a good idea too. --Spangineer ∞ 11:28, May 26, 2005 (UTC)- Or better yet, why not just include the others that would fall under "British monarchs", as suggested by Dmcdevit? This list isn't by any means too long, and the addition might be helpful. --Spangineer ∞ 11:35, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with Spangineer - why not include Welsh rulers and then there wouldn't have to be any name change of the current list.--Sophitus 01:26, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
- Or better yet, why not just include the others that would fall under "British monarchs", as suggested by Dmcdevit? This list isn't by any means too long, and the addition might be helpful. --Spangineer ∞ 11:35, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
- Object, does not include rulers of Wales. Neutralitytalk 07:43, May 31, 2005 (UTC)
- None of these people was (as far as I am aware) a "monarch of Wales". The list sets out its scope quite tightly in its header: monarchs of England (although see the query above about when it should start), of Scotland, of the Kingdom of Great Britain, and of the United Kingdom. If you want the Welsh principalities to be included, what about the kings of Kent, Sussex, Wessex, Mercia, Northumberland ... (and the King of Ireland - or High King of Ireland - and the other Irish kingdoms...) -- ALoan (Talk) 12:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Support, pending whatever namechange is deemed necessary, if any, by those who know more about this than I. I like the format. Tuf-Kat 01:23, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
- Support, the introduction defines the list's scope sufficently. -- User:Docu
- Object for the moment I'm afraid. Firstly, I think the naming issue needs to be resolved before this can be featured - yes, it's explained in the lead, but that doesn't alter the fact that the article title is inaccurate at present (I like the suggestion of List of monarchs of England and Scotland). Secondly, the table formatting doesn't work for me. If you're going to have England and Scotland next to each other in the table, it should be possible to look across from one and see who was ruling the other at the same time. If the timelines don't match up, you may as well just put one list below the other. OpenToppedBus - Talk 09:40, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)