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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by NapHit 15:05, 13 October 2012 [1].

List of international cricket centuries by Javed Miandad edit

List of international cricket centuries by Javed Miandad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Zia Khan 00:42, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because this is well referenced, properly arranged and based upon the pre-existing list of the same category. I believe this fulfills the FLC standards. Please, feel free to make your comments and suggestion. Zia Khan 00:42, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

*Comments regarding WP:ACCESS The table scopes are not valid: where they say scope="col; style="width:Xpx", it should be scope="col" style="width:Xpx" – the semicolon needs to be a closing quote. Also, there are no col scopes or a table title on your key, and you should ideally use {{dagger|alt=...}}, etc. and include the meaning in each use of the symbol templates. ajmint (talk•edits) 09:44, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:41, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Why three refs for his inclusion in the ICC hall of fame?
  • "he is fifteenth in the overall list of most hundreds in a Test career" I don't think he is, looks like he's 21st in the list... can you recheck the Cricinfo source please? At the very least he's currently tied with Justin Langer.
  • "he is seventeenth overall among all-time combined" I count him listed in equal 25th place...
  • Test 17, "14 April 988" was a long time ago..
  • Worth noting that whenever Miandad hit a Test ton, Pakistan never lost?
  • Balls col in the ODI table isn't sorting properly.
  • Ref 4 etc, no need to SHOUT.
    • Not sure what to do with comment #5, lost 1 Test to Australia. Fixed the rest. Zia Khan 21:01, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 09:19, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TBrandley (talk) 14:10, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Unlink cricketer per WP:OVERLINK
    • I've linked it at 1st use in the lede, also, it'll help many of our readers who little know about cricket.
  • Same goes for captain and cricket grounds
    • Same as above.
  • That image's caption requires further details; for example "Former Pakistan captain, Javed Miandad has scored ...", etc.
    • Done.
  • Remove flags per MOS:FLAG
  • Why is score scope rowed and not No.; it should be removed from score, and then added to No.
    • What is the reason for this? This is a century list and the score rows are the best option.
  • Ref needs a dot period at end of it
    • They are!
  • Avoid using a semi-colon for bolding as it is an WP:ACCESS issue, which makes it easier on screen readers, etc. I'd suggest creating an actual sub-section per that
    • Didn't get you.
  • Don't use {{cite web}} for external links
    • I think this is the best way for the ELs.
  • Categories should be sorted in alphabetical order

TBrandley 23:54, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 02:05, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • "and became one of five Pakistan player to score a century on their Test debut." "player" → "players".
    • Done.
  • In the lead photo caption, "century" should instead be "centuries".
    • Done.
  • In the Test Cricket centuries section heading, the second word should be decapitalized.
    • Done.
  • "player" needs to be changed tot "players" in note 1 as well. Giants2008 (Talk) 17:19, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 22:42, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "matches on 23 and 8 occasions" per MOS:NUM numbers under 10 should be spelled out. It also says comparative figures should be in the same format, so 23 should be spelled out as well
    • Done.
  • "In January 2009, the International Cricket Council (ICC) inducted him into the ICC Cricket Hall of Fame." change to The International Cricket Council (ICC) inducted into the ICC Cricket Hall of Fame in January 2009, breaks up the run of sentences that start with "In...
    • Done.
  • "youngest player ever"
    • Done.
  • "centuries at 13 cricket grounds, including 9..." another example regarding numbering
    • Done.
  • I'm not entirely convinced the image of Miandad is your own work, did you take the picture yourself? Or is it from another source?
    • You are right, this is 15 months ago when I was not a regular user. I have had this one in my PC and I uploaded this. I don't know where this is from, anyway, I've changed the source to "Unknown". If you could find a source for this or any other option in your mind?
Ok, chances are that the image is not free use, so it will have to be removed. You could trying searching on flickr for a free image under a creative commons licence. NapHit (talk) 11:07, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded an image from Flickr which was deleted by an adminstrator. I don't know how to handle this. Zia Khan 05:10, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
More than likely that image did not have the required licence to used. I'd had a search myself and can't find any images which do meet our licences, so unfortunately I think the article will have to do without for the time being. NapHit (talk) 22:42, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • ref 47, think there is a typo in the title

NapHit (talk) 18:59, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 12:08, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Centred tables distract me, don't know what purpose does they serve.
    • Most of the century lists have tables in centre. anyway, I've widen them.
  • The South African flag was different during 1993. There is some attribute in the template to change it.
    • Changed.
  • The key provided for "date" only applies for tests.
    • Fixed.
      • It should be "or the starting date"
        • Done.
  • Are you sure that 19 year olds are teenagers? ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 13:34, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think so. What do you think? Zia Khan 00:00, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Its not about legal adulthood. Its simply from 13 through 19. Zia Khan 11:25, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The clue is that 19 ends in teen, so yes they are teenagers. NapHit (talk) 12:04, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is, what I'm trying to say. Puberty and Adolescence are medical terms which don't have specific limits, I know this very well. Zia Khan 12:19, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay then. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 12:08, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from —Vensatry (Ping me) 05:30, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "He scored a century in the match, and became one of five Pakistan players to score a century on their Test debut". If you check the record, he is the second Pakistani to score a hundred on debut
    • So what is wrong with the sentence?
      • The sentence reads like, he became one of the five players to score a debut century (when he made his hundred). It's quite obvious that Salim Malik, M Wasim and Y Khan made their debuts much after Miandad came into prominence. —Vensatry (Ping me) 02:32, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Miandad achieved his first ODI century", achieved is repetitive here
    • Fixed.
  • Is the [[Category:One Day International cricket records]] relevant here?
    • Scoring centuries in ODIs is a record. What do you say?
  • "His highest Test score of 280 not out came in a match against India at the Niaz Stadium, Hyderabad, in 1983"

—Vensatry (Ping me) 20:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments

  • I feel the sentence "organized by the International Cricket Council" should be appended at "He scored centuries (100 or more runs) in Test matches and One Day International (ODI) matches" to avoid confusion. I guess you're aware of the issue that was brought up at the Lillee FLC. —Vensatry (Ping me) 04:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • There is no confusion! The whole sentence is: "He scored centuries (100 or more runs) in Test matches and One Day International (ODI) matches on twenty-three and eight occasions respectively during his international career." Also see this.
      • Miandad took part in the World Series Cricket in 1978. It was indeed considered an international series (Unofficial though). Although he never scored a century in the series, the 8,832 and 7,381 figures wouldn't tally. —Vensatry (Ping me) 07:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • "Test matches" and "One Day Internationals" in the sentence clarify this. Anyway, I've done according to your suggestion. Zia Khan 07:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref #4 isn't a true content provided by Cricinfo. It's an extract taken from Wisden. Referencing needs to be done accordingly. —Vensatry (Ping me) 04:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Specific -> Citations under Notes, since there are no general references.

—Vensatry (Ping me) 03:27, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Pipe link "National Stadium, Karachi" to "National Stadium" and a separate link to the city. —Vensatry (Ping me) 12:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done. Zia Khan 15:40, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Not done. I'm talking about the lead. —Vensatry (Ping me) 03:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • Ooops! I thought I've done this. Fixed now. Zia Khan 05:07, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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