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Oppose/Review by Truco (talk · contribs)
- Lead
- The championship was created and debuted on June 19, 2002 at TNA's second weekly pay-per-view event (PPV), which officially aired on June 26, 2002. -- (1)The (PPV) belongs after pay-per-view not after event (2)It should be clarified that June 19 was the date of the taping
- The first paragraph lacks. It should state more about the history of the title, see other championship FLs (mostly the recently promoted ones)
- That is all the history of the title. The only thing else that is major to the history is when the WWA International Crusierweight Championship was unified with it, but that doesn't change any champions. Nothing really big has happened to the belt over the years.
- There has to be more history. How did it come about (like right after the company was established)? You could also note the unification.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 01:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well in TNA Year One, it is stated that the idea came along on the first day of weekly ppvs. During a Six Man Tag Team match, they got the idea that an x division would be great, the only problem is, that is the same day the first champion was crowned. Numerous sources, reliable and not, state it was taped on the 19th. So that I'm not sure about. Other than that, nothing too serious. Just a few vacant reigns and a unification is it. This title was seen as a pure title from 2002 to 2007. After that TNA lost focus. I'll mention the unification, that is covered by Solie.org.--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 01:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Reigns that were won on episodes of TNA's primary television program, TNA Impact!, aired on television two to nine days from the date the match was taped. -- If you don't take my suggestion above about the clarifying of June 19, then broadcast delay should be pipelinked to "tape" in this sentence or in the other one. This also needs a source
- Reigns that were won on weekly PPV events aired either during a live broadcast or aired on taped delay up to 7 days apart. -- Did they really air live? In addition, this needs a source
- No source, just stating the tape delay since the second weekly PPV was delayed. In addition the live boarddcast were part of the deal with TNA started the weekly PPVs. That they were supposed to be live boardcast each week. Sometimes they were taped. I could source this with TNA's Year One DVD release from 08, when they talk about the deal. I don't have the exact sentence though or the DVD. I only saw it once.
- The inaugural champion was A.J. Styles, who is currently recognized by TNA to have become the champion after defeating Low Ki (Brandon Silvestry), Jerry Lynn, and Psicosis in a Four-Way Double Elimination match on the second weekly PPV. -- (1)No need for the real name in lists
- As of March 2009, Suicide is the current champion in his first reign. -- this should be the final sentence
- Styles currently holds the record for most reigns at six, as recognized by TNA. -- if its recognized by TNA, no need to state it, if it were vise-versa, then that would be different
- The longest reign as of March 2009 is 182 days, which was set by Christopher Daniels (Daniel Covell) during his first of four reigns as champion. -- no need for the real name
- List
- Reign 15 should list Kaz first because his name comes first in the alpha
- Reign 23, the part about Low Ki should be in the notes not in the wrestler column
- All dashes need to be emdashes (the long one)
- Most of the notes are not complete sentences and thus do not need full stops. Either reword them into complete sentences or reformat them with semicolons instead
- Episode aired on June 21, 2007. --> Episode aired on tape delay on June 21, 2007.
- Jim Cornette stripped Young of the championship after he won it in a controversial fashion. -->...because his win was controversial
- The bolded content in the days held column needs an explanation in the key
- Inconsistency with the naming of Final Resolution in December 2008 (the other has "Dec. 2008")
- The colored row in the second table needs to be explained, see the other championship list FLC
- References
- TNAWrestling.com is not the publisher, "TNA Entertainment" is the publisher
- SLAM! Refs need to have SLAM! Sports: Wrestling as the work--Best, ₮RUCӨ 23:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Regarding sources, common sense isn't as applicable to content like such. How would Bill Gates know that TNA was taped live w/o a source?--Best, ₮RUCӨ 01:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry dude, I got nothing. No source that states they are taped up to a certain number of days, or one that says they are taped at all. Just a bunch of spoilers. It is even harder to find results for weekly PPVs, so the same is out of the question there as well. If I put a fact tag next to them, would that be okay?--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 01:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Then citing the DVD like you stated will be the best thing to do.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 22:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Citing the DVD for what? If you are talking about the thought of making an X division I can, though I'm not sure it is true since they are saying they got the idea on June 19, but that means the belt was already created. For this sentence, there is nothing to source with the DVD.--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 22:52, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- In May 2003 before the professional wrestling promotion World Wrestling All-Stars closed its doors, then-champion, Chris Sabin, defeated WWA International Cruiserweight Champion Jerry Lynn, Frankie Kazarian and Johnny Swinger in a Four Corners championship unification match to unify the TNA X Division Championship with the WWA International Cruiserweight Championship. -- (1)Closed its doors is not encyclopedic, ceased operation or went out of business (2)Remove the the before professional wrestling (3)State whether the unification had an effect on this title reign.
- Finished the first, the second, and questioning the third. Nothing happened to the title. It wasn't renamed, it didn't have a big effect on it. So, I'm not sure that should be stated. Because then I would just be saying, "which had for further repercussions" (a rough draft). After the title was unified the WWA died. Though I have no source for that claim since they weren't an american promotion.--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 22:52, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The championship was created and debuted on June 19, 2002, the taping of TNA's second weekly pay-per-view (PPV) event, which officially aired on June 26, 2002. -- No need for the officially--Best, ₮RUCӨ 22:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Now the names for the titles need verification by sources. In addition, my comment about the full stops in the notes column was not done.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 01:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I sourced one, the TNA X Title is a no brainer, and I could use a picture of the old NWA X Belt as the article picture to show that it was called the NWA-TNA X Division Championship, if that is okay. I thought I got the notes section finished. They are all complete sentences.--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 01:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Defeated The Amazing Red to win the vacant championship. is not a complete sentence, request a copyedit of the notes. Also the image caption The TNA X Division Championship's design from 2002 to 2007 while he was named the NWA-TNA X Division Championship and the TNA X Division Championship. -- he was named?--Best, ₮RUCӨ 01:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Already fixed. I went and checked. I'm going to add TNA's removal of the NWA to the lead. So after that, I'll ask someone. That must have been a typ-o. I wrote that pretty quick.--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 01:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, I'll wait until all is done and well.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 02:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I'm done, everything is sourced and finished. To the best I know how to for a list article that is. Anything you want fixed just tell me, I hope to change that oppose to a support very soon.--WillC---Joe's gonna kill you!!!) 08:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Followup comments
- Lead
- In June 2002 when TNA began operations, the company executives signed a contractual agreement with the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) that allowed them control of the NWA World Heavyweight and NWA World Tag Team Championships. -- because both titles both have the NWA acronym, the first title should only have the acronym
- TNA followed by changing their name to NWA-TNA, making them an official territory of the NWA in the process. -- (1)followed? Not the best word choice (2)place a [subsidiary] right after territory
- When the X Division Championship was created, before the match to crown the inagual champion began, ring announcer Jeremy Borash referred to it as the NWA X Championship. -- (1)No need for the first part, start sentence with Before (2)Typo on inaugural
- After this match, the title was renamed the NWA-TNA X Division Championship, being correct with the new name of the promotion and to the design of the championship, with NWA-TNA being on the center plate of the physical belt. -- correct -->corrected
- In May 2007, the NWA ended their five year partnership with TNA; regaining control of the NWA World Heavyweight and NWA World Tag Team Championships in the process. -- same thing I said about the other the acronym above
- TNA followed by creating the TNA World Heavyweight and TNA World Tag Team Championships, which were debuted on their online podcast TNA Today on May 15 and May 17, 2007. -- (1)followed? poor word choice (2)Same comment about the acronyms applies here (3)debuted -->unveiled
- They also re-designed the TNA X Division Championship, removing the NWA-TNA from its plate; even though the title had been referred to as the TNA X Division Championship since late 2004. -- (1)Source? (2)removing the NWA-TNA what from its plate? (3)the semi colon should be a comma
- Be consistent with the naming of the title, it should be X Division Championship throughout, except for places where it shouldn't
- In May 2003 before professional wrestling promotion World Wrestling All-Stars ceased operation, then-champion Chris Sabin defeated WWA International Cruiserweight Champion Jerry Lynn, Frankie Kazarian and Johnny Swinger in a Four Corners championship unification match to unify the TNA X Division Championship with the WWA International Cruiserweight Championship. -- Now that you added more to the prose, this statement seems out of place, I would reformat the lead to maybe have the history in the first paragraph and squeeze this in somewhere appropriate. Consider splitting it into 2 paragraphs if you take my suggestion
- Table
- Everything should be right-aligned, including the dashes.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 14:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, I tried but some thing will just not go right. No pun intended.--WillC---Joe's gonna kill you!!!) 15:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, now the paragraphs are too big. I recommend splitting them up into 3 or four paragraphs that are evenly split.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 00:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright, I turned them into five even paragraphs.--WillC---Joe's gonna kill you!!!) 01:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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