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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Robin Williams performances edit

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Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk & FrB.TG (talk) 08:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We are nominating the list because we believe it provides an exhaustive list of Robin Williams's roles on stage and screen as well as other performances in video games. Please note that this is one of the co-nominators (Birdienest81) first filmography to be nominated for featured list status. This list was drafted over at User:Birdienest81/sandbox thirty-one. Warning: I have wisdom tooth removal on April 1, and therefore responses might be slow. Birdienest81talk 08:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:04, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
*"Williams then took on more serious parts in the comedy-drams" - typo on last word
  • "the musical animated" - animated musical, surely?
  • "Cameo, credited as Marty Fromage." - this doesn't need a full stop
  • "Frank|Reverend Frank}}" - what's going on here?
Well, since "Reverend" is merely a form of address and not actually his name, it should be sorted by Frank, don't you think?
Yes I do, but the issue was that the template was broken...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are two Harv errors in the refs
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:04, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Chris, as always. All done except the Reverent part. FrB.TG (talk) 18:49, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from User:SNUGGUMS

  • While I don't see any licensing problems with File:Robin Williams 2011a (2).jpg, it feels somewhat repetitive to use a very similar shot to what's used in the infobox at Robin Williams. I'd recommend using a pic from a different film-related event rather than the same one the main page uses one from.
The ones I found worth using were from as early as 2006 and I wanted to use an image from his later years.
  • Contrary to what your use of the word "but" in "a critical failure but earned thrice its budget" implies, what critics think of a movie is a separate matter from how much money it grosses.
  • The body's last sentence (talking about work in the 2010s) misuses semi-colons. They're not supposed to be used for separating titles.
I thought the overuse of commas and and's might confuse readers but there do not seem to be many so changed to commas.
  • Using rowspans within filmography tables is bad practice and frowned upon.
  • You shouldn't use episode counts for main starring/major recurring roles.
  • "Bibliography" is discouraged as a vague section title that could also refer to works written by a subject. You're better off renaming it.

I believe the above can be resolved within a reasonable time. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, Snuggums. All done unless stated otherwise. FrB.TG (talk) 10:19, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My pleasure, and now I can support this nomination. The image review also passes. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:02, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dank
  • Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
  • Best of luck with the dentist visit!
  • Many titles beginning with "The" (and one that starts with "A") aren't sorting correctly when I click on the sort arrows.
Done.
  • I fixed some double-redirects but I didn't get them all (such as Louie (U.S. TV series) -> Louie (American TV series)). Check for double redirects in sortable table columns.
Checked all and found another one. Fixed.
  • Check for retrieval dates; I see that ref #125 needs one (and "Philadelphia" is misspelled, too).
The ref. has no external link so it wouldn't need a retrieval date. The other ones missing it also don't have URLs.
  • Checking the FLC criteria:
  • 1. I really like the lead. I've done a little copyediting; feel free to revert or discuss. The table coding seems fine. I checked sorting on all sortable columns and sampled the links in the tables.
  • 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
  • 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
  • 3b. The article is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review).
  • 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
  • 4. It is navigable.
  • 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the one image seems fine.
  • 6. It is stable. - Dank (push to talk) 02:31, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Dank. :) FrB.TG (talk) 07:53, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We're close enough for a support now, but check the sorting again. When I click on the sort arrow in the "Title" column in the first table, it sorts as follows: "... The Survivors, the Aristocrats, The Big Wedding ...". I looked at the coding and I'm not sure what's going on; someone may have broken Template:Sort ... which is used constantly at FLC, so that would be a problem. - Dank (push to talk) 13:26, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My bad, I only looked under roles. They should be fixed now. Thank you for the support. FrB.TG (talk) 15:23, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That does fix it, thanks, and I'm no longer seeing any evidence that Template:Sort is acting up. Strange. - Dank (push to talk) 17:36, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kavyansh edit

  • "starred in films, television and video games throughout a career" — Suggesting to add Oxford comma after 'television' (if the article is in American English, which I'd assume as the subject actor is American)
  • "earned him his first Golden Globe Award and a Primetime Emmy Award nomination" — 'earned him his first Golden Globe Award and a nomination for Primetime Emmy Award' or 'earned him his nominations for first Golden Globe Award and Primetime Emmy Award"?
  • Suggesting to add an em-dash in the "Notes" column wherever there is nothing.
  • Ref#135 in the "Theatre" table is not center-aligned.
  • "p. 192-194" should be (1) pp. (2) en-dash instead of hyphen
  • "Crump, William D. (2017), How the Movies Saved Christmas: 228 Rescues from Clausnappers, Sleigh Crashes, Lost Presents and Holiday Disasters, Jefferson, North Carolina, United States: McFarland & Company, ISBN 978-1-4766-6488-0 " is listed, but there is no link pointing to that citation.
  • "Single Season Sitcoms, 1948-1979" — en-dash instead of hyphen
  • "TV Guide: Guide to TV {2006)" — something wrong with brackets?

– Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 11:46, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All done except for the third point. I find the use of em-dash redundant since it's just as meaningless as an empty note. Not to mention it doesn't look very pretty either. Thank you for your review. FrB.TG (talk) 13:36, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The first line of this review doesn't look right to me; I've left a comment and question on the reviewer's talk page. - Dank (push to talk) 15:26, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing most of it. I support the list for its promotion as a FL. I have reverted back the addition of serial comma, as suggested at my talk page. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Z1720 edit

I am still new at reviewing FLCs, so comments and feedback are appreciated. This review will focus on the lede, prose, and understandability.

  • "he was described by Screen Actors Guild president Ken Howard as "a performer of limitless versatility, equally adept at comedy and drama, whether scripted or improv".[1][2][3]" Are three citations necessary for this quotation? If some of these references are for preceeding sentences, I suggest that they be moved to be placed after the sentence that it is verifying, to avoid WP:OVERCITE.
  • "To expand his horizons as an actor," expand his horizons feels a little MOS:IDIOM. Perhaps, "Persuing more diverse roles,"
  • "Leszczak, Bob (2012)" All of the references have ISBN numbers that contain dashes except this one. Suggest adding the dashes for consistency.

Please ping me when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 13:03, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All done, Z1720, thank you for your comments. FrB.TG (talk) 15:35, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. My concerns have been addressed. Z1720 (talk) 16:10, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pamzeis edit

Hopefully not gonna screw this up

  • Williams' → Williams's (MOS:'S)
  • "he wanted to do more serious work as an actor" — ...in 1997? When?
  • Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, titles of works should be italicised in citations... I see some are and some aren't?

Hope this helps :) Pamzeis (talk) 05:29, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All done, Pamzeis, thank you. FrB.TG (talk) 17:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source and image reviews – All of the references are to reliable sources and formatted well, and the link-checker tool shows no issues. The one photo in the article is a freely licensed image from Flickr. Everything passes on both fronts. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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