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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 20:51, 14 July 2010 [1].

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Nominator(s): WereWolf (talk) 22:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I have worked extremely hard on it. I have used reliable sources for each citation, uploaded numerous photos of the band members, rewrote the entire lead, added the infobox, and resolved all of the comments that were brought up in the previous nomination. I strongly believe that this list does meet all of the criteria, and I am confident that the third time is the charm for this list. Thank you, WereWolf (talk) 22:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:24, 15:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
*Comments:
    • The first sentence can probably be split into two. The first one have the year and location formed, the second one have the members and the west of that sentence.
    • Higher Ground is a disambiguation; link it to the appropriate article.
    • As an aside, this article seems to meet criterion 3.b pretty clearly to me.
    • IMDb shouldn't be used as a reference; replace refs #32 and 34 (though 34 can just be removed since there's another one).

Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:15, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 20:18, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Interestingly our article on their "eponymous" album variously refers to it as The Red Hot Chili Peppers. Is the "The" needed there/here and does it still make it strictly eponymous if the album name is (if subtly) different from the band name?
    • The official title of the album is The Red Hot Chili Peppers, according to Allmusic [2]. I'm not sure why the article is called "Red Hot Chili Peppers (album)" here on Wikipedia. Allmusic also refers to the album as their "self-titled debut" in the band's biography (second paragraph, third sentence) [3]. Personally, I believe that the "The" is needed to differentiate between the album and the band.
  • "?.[6]" could you just confirm that the WP:MOS is okay with consecutive "end of sentence" markers such as . and ?
    • I didn't find anything on the actual Manual of Style guidelines; however, I did start a new discussion on the talkpage for extra help.
  • Refs which pick a single page should say "p." not "pp.", e.g. refs 8 & 10.
    • Done.
  • And page ranges in the references need en-dash to separate them, not a hyphen, per WP:DASH.
    • Done.
  • "and his drug addiction, abruptly quit the band in May" not sure you need to repeat "the band" here.
    • That's what I was thinking. Done.
  • "did not last very long" -> "was brief"?
    • Done.
  • "that "The chemistry wasn't ..." I don't think WP:MOS likes the capital T there. Check WP:MOSQUOTE.
    • You're right. Done.
  • Maybe consider an {{as of}} for the "Current" lineup?
    • In the "Years active" section? And would it be (for Anthony Kiedis, for example): "1983–1986, 1986 onward As of 2010"?
      • Well, definitely in the intro the current lineup, don't think you need the second. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:48, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Oh! I understand now. Thank you! Done.
  • First table unsortable, second table sortable. Any reason why not both?
    • I honestly have no idea. I'm not the best with tables, and for some odd reason, I used the exact table format for both. I actually copied and pasted the tables from another featured list and just changed the information. So, any help regarding that would be appreciated. Nevermind. Done.
      • Looks like between us we're getting there. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:48, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Just make sure the {{sortname}} template is used for everyone (including Flea!). The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • That's another problem I've been having. {{sortname}} does not allow a nickname or middle name to be present, unless I'm doing something wrong. I'll try again, but if I need help, I won't hesitate to ask.
            • I think I've done it. Have a look and see if it's what you expected... The Rambling Man (talk) 20:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
              • Wow, you're awesome. That's exactly what I wanted done! Thank you so much. WereWolf (talk) 20:04, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Former touring musicians table is a little odd - make the image col width the same as the image width, reference col seems way too wide...
    • I'll try again. I've been meaning to fix that table for a while, but I just don't know how. Take a look at the table now. I think I found the problem... Nevermind. You beat me to it. Haha. WereWolf (talk) 20:09, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Timeline fails WP:ACCESS as you use just colour to differentiate between instruments.
    • I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'll read over that and ask for help if I need it. WereWolf (talk) 19:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's to do with leaving only colour to distinguish between things in a diagram, it works against colour-blind people, so ACCESS tends to support using both colour and a symbol... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:48, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Where do I find the symbols? WereWolf (talk) 20:03, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Hmm, this could be tricky. Not sure how the Timeline graphic will support symbols and colour. To be honest, I'm not sure if the timeline is strictly necessary. A lot of sports FLCs/recent FLs actually don't have timelines but do use colour and symbols together to satisfy WP:ACCESS. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:11, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • So, if I did remove this timeline, would I still have to combine the colours and the symbols? If so, how'd I do that? WereWolf (talk) 20:13, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
              • It's just the timeline that's at fault, the rest of the article is fine. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:14, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                • Okay. I'll remove the timeline. Done. WereWolf (talk) 20:15, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:10, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support a patient and understanding editor who takes criticism positively and produces good work. Could we ask for anything more? I doubt it. A pleasure to work with, well done. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:18, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I don't like the blogspot-ref, but since the claim is supported by two other refs it isn't much of a problem. Tooga - BØRK! 18:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't mind removing the blogspot ref. WereWolf (talk) 18:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In that case I think it should be removed and the text adapted to the contents of the two other refs. However, my support stands either way. Tooga - BØRK! 20:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. WereWolf (talk) 20:06, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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