Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Polish cardinals/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was archived by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 23:17:09 12 January 2020 (UTC) [1].

List of Polish cardinals edit

Featured list candidates/List of Polish cardinals/archive1

Nominator(s): — Kpalion^(talk) 17:09, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it is complete, up-to-date, stable, well-referenced, has a sufficiently-detailed lead, is well illustrated with free images. In short, it meets all the criteria. — Kpalion^(talk) 17:09, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – I don't believe this meets the FL criteria yet. – zmbro _(talk) 22:00, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No lead image?
The table should definitely have its own heading
FLs do not say "This list..."; done in this meta fashion multiple times
Almost all paragraphs in the lead should have references, especially if you wanna say "Karol Wojtyła was the only Polish cardinal to be elected pope. As Pope John Paul II, he elevated ten of his compatriots to cardinalate, the largest number of Polish cardinals created by a single pope."
References are the biggest problem here.

Everything in the ref col should not be externally linked
What is Miranda?
Ref 3 is a dead link
Wikisource is 100% not an RS; honestly don't know if most of these are RSs
Almost every reference is primary when you need a mix of different sources

The table:

Could benefit from being sortable
Needs scope cols and rows per MOS:ACCESS
Image col should be next to the name

All I can pinpoint at the moment, but for now this is sadly nowhere near ready for FL. – zmbro _(talk) 22:00, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Thanks for the advice! — Kpalion^(talk) 18:59, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose mainly on sourcing. Almost everything in the article is sourced to catholic-heirarchy.org and/or a site referred to as simply "Miranda". Both just seem to the personal website of some random person (and, for the record, both look like Geocities sites from 1998). Clearly neither can be considered to meet WP's definition of a reliable source, so unfortunately I have to oppose at this time -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:10, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per above. Also, there are no sources for "Polish cardinals eligible for participation in a conclave" section. Suggest archiving this nomination. b uidhe 03:16, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:17, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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