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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 08:15, 24 February 2010 [1].

List of Memorial Cup champions edit

Nominator(s): Resolute 16:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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A list I worked on some time ago but failed to nominate at that time. There are a few redlinks for some of the oldest teams, which I do not believe should be a problem but can fix if desired. Fun Fact: My grandfather played in the 1953 tournament, and that team was recently honoured by the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame. Resolute 16:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. Mm40 (talk) 13:04, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - Just wondering why are the Host Locations very inconsistent? for example the "1919 to 1971" table has no locations linked, and "1972 to 1982" has them linked and "1983 to present" doesn't even have the column, plus on a personal opinion the Abbreviations would create some type of confusion with the readers as I would expect some may not know that Alberta is abbreviated AB (just an example I would expect them to not be familiar with the other regions as well). Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 22:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Umm, yeah. That was a bit of a miss on my part.  ;) I've changed the first two tables to be consistent - using just city names and linking only the first usage. From 1983 on, the host city was de-emphasized in favour of the host team, which is noted in italics. Resolute 01:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Musta accidentally looked over the Italics part. and I would think overlinking the host city column wouldn't be a bad thing and would remain consistent with the table as after all the Team names are linked multiple times. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 01:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Duly overlinked.  :) Resolute 00:12, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - It all seems fine. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 23:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:16, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
  • Do we really need to link World War I?
  • "playdowns " Is there a less jargon-y word that can be used?
  • "The Western Hockey League has won the most Memorial Cup 18 times since the adoption of the three league tournament format in 1972." This sentence reads strangely ... "has won the most Memorial Cup 18 times"?
  • "Amongst " "Among" is simpler and nicer.
  • "with for titles each." Typo?
  • "Canada in the first World War." Same comment about linking WWI here, and it might be better to say "World War I" here too for consistency.
  • "It was to be awarded to the junior hockey champions of Canada in an east versus west format." If possible, could you specify which teams (leagues?) comprised the east and which comprised the west?
  • Not possible. In the early days, any team sanctioned by its provincial governing body was eligible. This would have represented dozens of leagues over time.
  • "The head-to-head competition for the Memorial Cup changed formats several times over the years." Redundancy
  • Why not make the tables sortable?
  • The abbreviation "TG" needs to be defined.
  • Is it worth redlinking 2011 Memorial Cup yet? Dabomb87 (talk) 17:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The host city for the 2011 tournament is scheduled to be selected in April, with an acompanying article likely created then. No harm in leaving it redlinked.
All dealt with except those I replied to individually. Thanks! Resolute 01:41, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not a bad idea. Updated. Resolute 00:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support –

  • 1983 to present: "they had been defeated by Spokane Chiefs in the WHL playoffs." Add "the" after "by".
  • Note b: "The Chicoutimi Sagueneens hosted the 1988 tournament at the Colisee de Chicotimi, however were not guaranteed a vote." Not in love with the grammar here. Merely switching "however" to "but" is the fastest way to improve it.
  • In the first table, the score is sorting improperly. The double-digit scores are sorting in a different group than the single-digit scores. I think the figures need sort templates. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:32, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • All three fixed... I hate sortable tables, lol. Resolute 00:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 08:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "Major Junior" or "Major-Junior"?
  • Without the hyphen. I've never really seen it used with.
  • " won the most titles, six." perhaps "with six"?
  • "who died for Canada in" perhaps this is CanEng, but didn't they come from Canada and die in WWI rather than "die for Canada"?
  • Junior ice hockey appears to be overlinked.
  • "The head-to-head competition for the Memorial Cup changed formats several times" - has changed.
  • Disagree. Adding "has" implies to me that the format described continues to exist. Without has, it reads as a past tense statement, imo.
  • Result col (in the first table) sorts oddly for me.
  • In what way?
  • Well, I get 7-5 ahead of 2-0 one way and 4-3-1 the other way. I'm not sure what the sort is supposed to be doing. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:31, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • 7-5 is a combined score over two games, as denoted by the (TG) notation, while the 2-0, 3-1, etc are the number of games won by each team. There really is no better way I can think of to sort that given the differing formats. Resolute 01:26, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I tried to add a clarification to the hatnote above the table. Resolute 01:28, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blank cells never good - perhaps a TBA or TBD?

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All changed saved the lines I individually replied to. Thanks! Resolute 19:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Truco

Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)

General
  • Alt text, contributors, dabs and external links check out fine.
Lead
  • Each year the champions from three CHL member leagues; the Western Hockey League (WHL), Ontario Hockey League (OHL), and Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL), along with a host team, compete in the MasterCard Memorial Cup Tournament. -- this would be better written as Each year the champions from three CHL member leagues—the Western Hockey League (WHL), Ontario Hockey League (OHL), and Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL), along with a host team—compete in the MasterCard Memorial Cup Tournament.
  • Known originally as the OHA Memorial Cup, it was donated in 1919 by the Ontario Hockey Association in honour of the soldiers who died fighting for Canada in World War I. -- maybe link to Canada in World War I?
Tables
  • I would make the additional participants and locations column unsortable because their are multiple entries.
Notes
  • In 1987 the OHL organized a Super Series for the right to host the Memorial Cup tournament between the Leyden Division champions Oshawa Generals, and the Emms Division champions North Bay Centennials. -- comma after 1987
References
  • Support--Truco 503 02:48, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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