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The list was promoted by Giants2008 10:01, 10 June 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Lincoln City F.C. players edit

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Nominator(s): Struway2 (talk) 08:59, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I've been creating dozens of player articles to get the redlink count down (down to about 12 five now, so we're getting there) and staring at the list itself for weeks trying to spot all the deliberate mistakes, and it'd be a dreadful waste of time if I didn't nominate it. This is part one of the Lincoln City F.C. complete player list project (part two might well follow, not convinced part three ever will) split at 100+ appearances as per standard procedure with English football clubs with many hundreds of former players. All constructive criticism gratefully received... Struway2 (talk) 08:59, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Quick comment – Is a page number possible for ref 3? It's to a specific fact, so a cite to the whole book isn't precise enough in this case. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Goalkeeper David Felgate is the only man in this appearance range to have been capped by his country while a Lincoln City player" - at this point you haven't actually said what the appearance range is, so this is confusing..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Fair point, thanks for noticing. Re-arranged. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:37, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - can't see any issues now -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:45, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Much dislike the hash (section) link in the hatnote.
    • Piped
  • Could link relegation to the more specific section of that article?
    • Which is? if you go in any deeper than the top, you miss out on the definition of relegation, which is probably why the word is linked at all.
      • Just thought it more appropriate to link it to the "English example" but you're right I guess, the lead is important (albeit tagged with a nasty maintenance template!) The Rambling Man (talk) 16:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "only man in this appearance range to have been capped by his country while a Lincoln City player; he received his only cap" -> "only ... capped;... only cap..."
    • Hmm, thanks for noticing. Wasn't easy rewording without bringing in yet another "appearance", or putting "player" and "played" in far too close proximity
  • Link "friendly"?
    • Done
  • " 2012–13 playing season" unclear as to what a "playing season" is.
    • Simplified
  • You have four refs to " Rollin & Rollin" but I don't see that listed, just a "Rollin" ref, what am I missing?
    • The Sky Sports annual ed Rollin & Rollin is fully defined at ref#12, which is its first use as a specific reference. I didn't list it with the general references because it isn't really a general ref, it's a specific ref used 5 times. Do you think it'd be clearer to define it under general refs anyway?
  • Perhaps not immediately, but given the propensity of football clubs to destroy their own websites and change URLs/delete pages etc, I'd consider using webcite or something similar to archive pages from those sources...
    • The history pages from the previous incarnation of the LCFC website are already on archive.org, and the content's the same, so I've added links to those. If the LCFC archive (the main general ref) dies, I'll have to buy a book, because I don't fancy archiving however many hundred player pages...

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:58, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could have sworn I'd done this in the first place.... I get worse Thanks for reviewing, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, happens all the time. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The Rambling Man (talk) 15:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Can the flag for Lee Frecklington be changed to match the one for Peter Gain? I'm not sure how or when, but some flags have a blue border depending on which template is used. Rather annoying. Most seem to have been corrected now atleast. Walls of Jericho (talk) 16:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Are you sure they're different? They do use different templates: Gain uses {{fbu}} for the automatic U21 wording, while Frecklington uses {{flagicon}} with manually added wording. But I've just tried putting the flagicon one next to the fbu and magnifying them up to enormous, and they both seem to have a border and (to me) look exactly the same. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's bizarre. When I magnified my screen the blue border for Frecklington changed to grey, like the rest. When I put it back to normal it was blue again. It must be something at my end, either the screen or the browser. Sorry for the inconvenience. Walls of Jericho (talk) 18:52, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Excellent work as usual. Walls of Jericho (talk) 18:57, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Mattythewhite (talk) 18:31, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Wouldn't "remained at that level until relegated" read better as "remained at that level until being relegated"?
  • I've looked through Hugman, Barry J., ed. (2005). The PFA Premier & Football League Players' Records 1946–2005. Queen Anne Press. ISBN 978-1-85291-665-7., and there's four players missing international selection data. These are Darren Davis (England youth, p. 161), Brendan Guest (England youth, p. 255), Trevor Peake (England C, p. 484) and Gordon Simmonite (England C, p. 562).

Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 21:51, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to "remained at that level until they were relegated". Thank you so much for the additional info, that really is reviewing beyond the call of duty. Don't know why I missed Simmonite, when I wrote his article I managed to include his caps with source... cheers. Struway2 (talk) 08:10, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I've recently been looking through this book for international selection data for York players so thought I'd carry on my good form. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:31, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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