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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 01:05, 21 February 2012 [1].

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Nominator(s): —Commander (Ping me) 17:56, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria. This was nominated for FLC at the time of its creation but was not promoted due to lack of content. The list was designed based on the one for England and List of India Women ODI Cricketers, and has been significantly updated with statistics up to date. —Commander (Ping me) 17:56, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • Excess "India." after refs 4 and 5 needs removal.
  • Excess period is still there, though the India is gone. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:02, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the Suresh Raina photo caption, "international" could use capitalization. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:16, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 18:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Is there a link to overs? would be useful for that to be linked
  • I would link innings in the key as well
  • I have already linked "innings" in the key. If you are more specific can you please point it out. —Commander (Ping me) 17:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't really need the colours in the batting, bowling and fielding columns, the key makes it clear what discipline the stats are related to, plus the colour hides the sort keys, I'd remove it.
  • Any reason why you don't use exclamation marks for the rowscopes?
  • Use † instead of the normal dagger as this complies with WP:ACCESS
  • Use — instead of conventional mdashes in the table as it allows the dash to sort properly
  • Any reason why the players sort by first name rather than last? NapHit (talk) 15:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is a problem with South Indian names. For eg., take the case of Subramaniam Badrinath where "Badrinath" is the actual name and "Subramaniam" is a patronymic. —Commander (Ping me) 17:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Im wondering why you have listed the players starting with most matches. In the Test and ODI Indian cricketer lists, its chronologically on who played first, i.e. depending on when you debuted, your listed starting with those who played first. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 10:22, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • It was listed like that before I started working on the list. Is it mandatory that players have to be listed in the order of who played first when we have sortability. —Commander (Ping me) 11:11, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I was just wondering why its different. Normally, Iv seen the lists the other way (debut first, listed first). Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 13:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Support Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 12:58, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 12:07, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "A Twenty20 International (T20I) is a form of cricket" no, T20 is a form of cricket, a T20I is a form of cricket match...
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The first Twenty20 International match" you've abbreviated it already so use the abb...
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the current captain" need a timeframe for this.
Timeframe? Should I say that he has been leading the team since India's first game or something like that? —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Like "As of ...." you need to add that. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:45, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 11:59, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "best bowling figure is" I thought this was always plural, and would advise you link it if possible.
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Link "six" appropriately.
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would link the 2007 ICC WC in the first use of the word "inaugural".
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "a fifty which came off just 12 balls, thus" would remove "just" and perhaps link "balls" to delivery or something appropriate.
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Australia in Melbourne in" bit Easter Egg to link Melbourne to the MCG, would perhaps say "at the Melbourne Cricket Ground" instead.
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Forgive me asking a possibly stupid question, how do we know that some of those players are still "active"? What's the criteria for them to not have an end year?
I had this doubt earlier. Perhaps should I convert that into two columns (First and Last appearance) —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Probably safest option (certainly the most verifiable and least subjective approach)... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:45, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Already done —Vensatry (Ping me) 11:59, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "This list of Indian cricketers" looks like a throwback to an old style intro...
Is it okay for now? or should I remove it—Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I adjusted it a bit, looks fine to me now. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:45, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • For careers of 2011–2011, just have one 2011, no need for a zero length range.
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • 5wI is missing from the key.
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "won his first cap" first shouldn't be part of the wikilink.
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • External link should have the same info for publisher, it's not Cricinfo India is it?
Done —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:18, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Drive-by comment I was alerted to this nom on my talk page, I have spotty internet access for a while, but I just found one minor issue -- "having played 31 T20I matches with 16 wins and a tie against Pakistan." To me, this reads like the 16 wins and one tie were against Pakistan, a comma after wins or parenthesis for "against Pakistan" would be helpful. Otherwise, it looks good to me, and I think I'd support the list (just don't have enough time to check the table deeply). —SpacemanSpiff 08:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Support I've not had a chance to examine the article in detail, and while it looks good at a quick glance two things strike me. First of all, I think the "first" and "last" columns are a good format; there are some other FLs of this type (ie: list of international cricketers in a given format) and the more common "career span" column isn't entirely satisfactory because you could effectively only sort by start date. List of Australia Twenty20 International cricketers (an old FL but perhaps worth looking at) has a brief section on captains in the format, what are your thoughts on something similar here? It's covered, theoretically at least, at List of India national cricket captains#Men's Twenty-20 International captains but may be worth considering for this list. Nev1 (talk) 19:56, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • The "first" and "last columns" were added to avoid ambiguity. Coming to list of captains, I personally don't think there is a necessity to include, as only three players have represented the team so far. It will not be significant as Sehwag and Raina had led the team on very few occasions. The captains are however represented using a double dagger. —Vensatry (Ping me) 19:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. After having a look at similar kind of lists that seem to be a good idea. I have added that now :) —Vensatry (Ping me) 12:15, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it's worth mentioning somewhere that Sehwag's only match in charge was also India's first T20I. I've made a couple of copy edits you'll want to check over to see if you agree, but I'm close to supporting. Nev1 (talk) 13:34, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've switched to support. You've put in some good work here, and it reminds me that the list of Ireland's ODI players needs updating. Nev1 (talk) 16:00, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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