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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Harlem Hit Parade number ones of 1942 edit

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Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:26, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Before there was Drake, there was Lucky Millinder. Before there was Cardi B, there was Lady Day. This list covers the start of what Billboard magazine regards as the earliest incarnation of its R&B chart. Feedback as ever will be most welcome..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:26, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Ojorojo

  • The second and third sentences of the lead are both over 40 words and could be split up for readability.
    • Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      It wasn't a big deal, but I think it reads better now.
  • The 1942–1944 musicians' strike and the wartime diversion of shellac used in 78s were getting underway. Some info on how this impacted record production and sales may be of interest.
    • I've had a search but not really found anything on those points that is pertinent to this chart. I mean, I could mention that they happened, but without being able to link them to the songs which topped this chart or to African American-oriented music specifically in 1942 (and I haven't found anything along those lines), it would just seem like a random disconnected fact dropped into the prose IMO (if you look at the list for 1943 I did mention it there, because I managed to specifically link it to that year's chart-toppers, but I didn't find anything equivalent for '42......) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      If there's no pertinent info, then there's nothing to add.
  • The artists column sorts on their first name. For individuals, it's usually on their last.
    • Very confused by this comment, because the names already sort by last name and have done for over a year.......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:33, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      Yes, it works fine. I must have been looking at another table.

The rest looks good; refs and the image FURs all check out.

—Ojorojo (talk) 17:22, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment from another reviewer: more often these days, I'm seeing complaints that sentences are "too long". I agree with the principle (sometimes), but the end result of chopping sentences in half winds up being a net negative more often than a net positive. I'm not sure what to do about this trend. Chris, I'm open to whatever you want to do with this. - Dank (push to talk) 18:45, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've broken up the sentences and don't think they read too badly...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Works for me if it works for you two. - Dank (push to talk) 19:44, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support All of my comments have been addressed. Good job as always. —Ojorojo (talk) 20:38, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Comments from Dank

  • Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
  • The table needs a caption.
  • Checking the FLC criteria:
  • 1. The prose is fine. No comment on hyphens (in "African American", "highly-regarded"). For today and for future reference too, usage tends to change over time on phrases such as "African American" and "black capital of America", and I haven't been keeping up. I've done a little copyediting; feel free to revert or discuss. The table coding seems fine. I checked sorting on all sortable columns and sampled the links in the table; When the Lights Go On Again is a redirect. FWIW, my advice is to lowercase "orchestra", generally, in "and his Orchestra" ... when I looked at the relevant articles, "X and his orchestra" didn't appear to be a consistent proper noun. (Maybe the articles are wrong, but if so, it would make sense to change the usage there first.)
  • 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
  • 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
  • 3b. The article is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
  • 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
  • 4. It is navigable.
  • 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
  • 6. It is stable.
  • Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 21:30, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Looks good so far, so I'll unwatch, but don't forget the table caption. - Dank (push to talk) 21:59, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 22:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • Refs 3 and 5 need en dashes in their titles for the year ranges.
  • Those two refs have the same ISBN numbers despite being from different years. Would you mind double-checking that this is correct?
  • The publisher of ref 7 should likely be italicized. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:18, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Giants2008: - done! :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:19, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – My few concerns have been addressed. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB) edit

  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. --PresN 23:24, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN: - done! :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:19, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image review — Pass edit

  • ALT text looks good! Both the images are appropriately licenced. Pass for image review. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:21, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 20:28, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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