Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Fernando Alonso/archive1

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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC) [1].

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List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Fernando Alonso

List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Fernando Alonso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Radioactive39 (talk) 19:28, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because it seems like a very informative list about arguably both one of the best and most popular Formula One drivers of this sport. In my opinion, this list also gives a detailed overview about the driver's statistics and achievements (in this case: Grand Prix wins) throughout the driver's career. This could attract the attention of the readers, mainly because he is a popular Formula One driver, as I said before in my brief text. Radioactive39 (talk) 19:28, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

*"currently competing for Alpine, who won 32 Formula One Grands Prix and two world championships." - is it Alsonso or Alpine that won this? "moved to Renault after just one season for initially being a test and reserve driver => "moved to Renault after just one season, initially to be a test and reserve driver" "before he was being promoted as a regular driver" => "before he was promoted to a regular driver" "managed to win consecutive world championships" => "won consecutive world championships" "in 2005 and 2006 as he won each seven races in both seasons" => "in 2005 and 2006, winning seven races in both seasons" " the then-youngest world champion in the history " => " the then-youngest world champion in history " "Alonso signed for the McLaren team in 2007 following a contract expiry with Renault[5]," => "Alonso signed for the McLaren team in 2007 following his contract expiring with Renault[5]," - also the ref should go after the punctuation, not before "narrowly losing out the title" => "narrowly losing out on the title" "due to a split between him and the McLaren team[7]," - ref should be after punc "first Spaniard to win a Formula One race.[8][c]." - why are there two full stops there? "including his both victories" => "including victories" "In all, Alonso won a total of 32 races at 19 different circuits" - has he retired? If not, this should be "In all, Alonso has won a total of 32 races at 19 different circuits" "achieved with cars being designed and powered by Renault" => "achieved with cars designed and powered by Renault" "subsequently making him the most successful Spaniard" => "making him the most successful Spaniard" "He was most successful at the Bahrain International Circuit in Bahrain" => "He has been most successful at the Bahrain International Circuit in Bahrain" "he curiously never achieved to win in Brazil." - "curiously" is not NPOV so remove "Alonso took a controversial victory at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, after his teammate Nelson Piquet Jr. was ordered to crash deliberately." - source? Refs 23 to 28 are not correctly formatted, missing almost all parameters Other refs are inconsistent in how works/publishers are shown eg 21, 40, 41, 43, 45 are all from the same site but show the work/publisher five different ways That's what I got on a first pass -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC) Hello ChrisTheDude, thank you very much for both taking a look at the list and subsequently making suggestions of improvement. I have amended the list based on your suggestions. Hopefully, the list fits well now. Regarding to your last suggestion in terms of the inconsistent refs, I need to look at it later closely, but the remaining errors have been fixed. Please feel free to comment again if I might forgot to edit something. Radioactive39 (talk) 14:48, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Further comments

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

*Piquet Jr image caption - ref should be after punctuation, not before "Fernando Alonso is a Spanish racing driver, who won" - has he retired from the sport? If not, then this should be "Fernando Alonso is a Spanish racing driver, who has won" Image caption: "Fernando Alonso in 2016, winning a total of 32 races and back-to-back world championships with Renault." He is not winning them in the picture, so this should probably be "Fernando Alonso in 2016. He has won a total of 32 races and back-to-back world championships with Renault." No need to mention Kimi Räikkönen's full name both times he is mentioned in the lead - just use his surname the second time -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC) Hello ChrisTheDude, the further comments have been added as well. Thank you very much for giving me your feedback and your suggestions in order to improve the list. Radioactive39 (talk) 17:23, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:27, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 21:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

* 'He won consecutive world championships in 2005 and 2006, winning each seven races in both seasons.' last part of the sentence doesn't make sense. Change to 'winning seven races in each season.' 'At the time, he became the first Spaniard to win a Formula One World Championship...' at the time would suggest there's been another F1 champ from Spain since his victories which I don't think there has. Suggest having the pain bit in a separate sentence from the two records that have been surpassed by Vettel, as it currently reads like all three have been surpassed when one hasn't. ' two of three records that had been previously held by joint-record seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher.' what's the other record held by Schumacher he didn't beat? Not sure we need to mention two out of three as it leaves the reader wondering what the third record is when it's not made implicit in the sentence what that record actually is. 'beating the previous record of Bruce McLaren and also making him the first Spaniard to win a Formula One Grand Prix.' also making him is redundant here, remove it and keep the remaining bit 'After being winless in 2004...' -> After a winless 2004 season, 'before having a disappointing 2009 season...' remove having 'In all, Alonso has won a total of 32 races at 19 different circuits.' Again, not sure we need 'in all' here. Sentence works fine without it. ref 3, Sydney Morning Herald needs to be in italics as it's a publication. So change publisher to work in the cite template What makes maxf1.net a reliable source? I'm not convinced it is. Those refs should be easy to replace with BBC refs or the official F1 site ref 5 has autosport.com while ref 43 has Autosport. As Autosport is a publication, I think ref 5 should change to mimic ref 43. ref 33, what makes The Versed a reliable source? I think we can find a more reliable source from a news outlet to reference one of the most controversial races in F1 history. Likewise with ChicaneF1, I'm not convinced it's a reliable site. It can easily be replaced by BBC or the F1 site. That's all from me. NapHit (talk) 10:56, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

@Radioactive39: Are you still pursuing this nomination? The above comments have been left unaddressed for two months, and the nomination will be closed soon if no actions are taken. --PresN 14:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, unfortunately I did not see the above comments. I will improve the list based on the comments as soon as possible. And yes, I am still pursuing this nomination. Radioactive39 (talk) 16:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@PresN@NapHit Improvements based on the above comments have been made. Radioactive39 (talk) 16:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Happy to support now my concerns have been addressed. NapHit (talk) 21:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

This has been sitting here too long, so I was hoping to review it myself and then promote it. Unfortunately, after giving the lead a copyedit, I don't feel that I can, due to one major issue: the first pargraph of the lead gives a chronological overview of his career... and then the second paragraph starts over at the beginning of his career and goes through it again. It's not at all clear to me why. Please either make the whole thing chronological, or make it more clear why some things are in paragaph one vs. two. --PresN 22:49, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@Radioactive39: Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello @PresN, thank you for your comment! I have finally made the whole thing chronological. I hope the text about Fernando Alonso's race wins is now both well-structured and well-written. Radioactive39 (talk) 10:10, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Alright, made a couple tweaks, but, promoting. --PresN 15:00, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

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