Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Birmingham City F.C. managers

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The list was promoted 13:13, 24 March 2008.

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List of Birmingham City F.C. managers

Self-nomination. This list follows the format used in previous featured lists of this type. It went through a peer review, and I believe it satisfies the FL criteria. Thank you in advance to those who take the trouble to review it, and I leave it to your good selves to decide if it is worthy of promotion. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

• Support - I participated in the peer review and I'm happy that the article now is more than enough to meet the WP:FL criteria. Well done. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comments Very good list, liking the History section. A few minor comments:
  • "by committee" - by a committee? reworded
  • Soccerbase says Bruce left on the 19 November, while the article states 23 November. Is a different source being used for this?
  • Also, Soccerbase say Black left on 28 November and the article says 27, but the BBC says it was the 27, so maybe you could include this somewhere to reference this date.
• Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 10:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

The list dates are right, but the differences from Soccerbase should have been annotated, and now are. Thanks for pointing this out. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:18, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

• Support Now issues dealt with. Good work. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:32, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
• Support but being finickety, could you cite the Alf Ramsey spat text? Also, is there no way at all to fill the 1948 lacuna? --Dweller (talk) 14:31, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Ramsey duly cited. Re 1948, I find it very frustrating there being one item missing, but have reached my last resort, which would be to go through the local newspaper archives for the relevant few weeks. These are available at the Central Library, but I don't live in Birmingham and rarely visit apart from matchdays when time constraints generally preclude hours poring over microfilm, so unfortunately it's not going to happen yetawhile. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

This implies there was no-one in between. --Dweller (talk) 13:24, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

That's a mirror of approximately this version of the History section of Birmingham City F.C.'s Wikipedia article. In terms of permanent appointments, Brocklebank was Storer's successor, but what I don't know is whether or not they explicitly appointed a caretaker for those few weeks between the two, and if they did, who it was. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Why does the lead say it's a chronological list, when it's sortable by name and date?
  • As presented, it is a chronological list, both in the prose section and in the table. The reader can use the sort buttons to rearrange the table by name, win percentage, nationality, as he/she wishes, but I didn't think that was something that needed mentioning in the lead?
• Are there specific references to include in the table for "Unknown", Bob Brocklebank, Joe Mallett, and all the others without them, or are they covered by a more general reference?
  • The intro to the table mentions the main sources used for each manager's stats (I've changed it to say "dates and statistics") and says that any differences from the main source are noted in the table. I've also added an explicit reference to FCHD to the Honours column heading.
    • Further to the above. BCFC Archive, which should be the main source for the Storer-Brocklebank gap, doesn't explicitly give the stats for that gap, so I've added a ref to book source Matthews (1995), which does. Thanks for making me look at it again. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

-- Matthew | talk | Contribs 21:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

hope that clarifies matters, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

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