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The list was promoted by Giants2008 03:24, 19 March 2011 [1].

Grammy Award for Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals

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Nominator(s): Blackjacks101 (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel this list meets the FL Criteria. This is my first major expansion of an article and I have formatted it to make it similar to the other FL Grammy Lists made predominantly by User:Another Believer.--Blackjacks101 (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: Glad to see other contributors taking stabs at Grammy lists! This should certainly help to speed up the process with getting all categories up to good/FL status. I see no problems with references, ref formatting, or disambig links.

  • See my recent edit regarding sorting. Sorting capability needs to be incorporated into the entire "Performing artists" and "Work" columns.
  • I will let other reviewers determine if having multiple flags of the same country within the same cell (for example, four American flags for Christina Aguilera, Mya, Lil Kim and Pink) is necessary, and if country flags are preferred in general.
  • Each category is different based on its history, but I feel like this lead is a little short. There may not be much to expand, but I would make sure there are no sources indicating why the category was started.

I do not have any major gripes about the list, but I will wait for other reviewers to examine the list before offering support. Keep up the great work! --Another Believer (Talk) 02:15, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll start working on it ASAP =D--Blackjacks101 (talk) 16:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorting looks good. Don't add additional images if the column starts running into the sections below--there is room for another pictures on my screen, but I realize we don't all see the same display. --Another Believer (Talk) 17:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I support the promotion of this list, regardless of whether or not the paragraph I added about Natalie and Nat King Cole and the five artists with more than one nomination within the same year is kept. --Another Believer (Talk) 23:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Reviewers, would it be worth including this link in the external links section? For some Grammy lists I added official YouTube links to award-winning music videos, but I was never sure if adding a link to tagged videos on the Grammy site was helpful/appropriate or not. Feedback would be appreciated for this list and others. --Another Believer (Talk) 02:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:15, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Santana's caption doesn't need a full stop.
  • Not too keen on the repeated flags when they don't line up with the artists names (e.g. Green and Lovett appear on the same line on my screen while the nationality flags appear on separate lines).
  • Allison Krauss seems to be actually called Alison Krauss.
  • Boys II Men should be Boyz II Men.
  • Van Morrisson should be Van Morrison.
  • Mya should be Mýa.
  • Lil'Kim -> Lil' Kim.
  • Black Eyed Peas is The Black Eyed Peas.
  • You seem to have linked all newspapers first time except for the NYT.

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:34, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done, though I am not sure about your second point as to what you want me to do--Blackjacks101 (talk) 21:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you could line up the names with the flags using the line break. But it's just my opinion, let's see what others think. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, personally I didn't think it was a big deal since Grammy Award for Best Rap/Sung Collaboration does the same thing but sure lets see what everyone else thinks. BTW thanks for commenting!--Blackjacks101 (talk) 21:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and removed duplicate flags within the same cell. In my opinion, only one American flag is required if both performing artists are American. This can be discussed and reverted if consensus prefers multiple flags of the same country within the same cell. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • The Chieftains needs to use {{sortname}}
  • Is there a better image of Santana (or of another artist to replace it)
  • Not sure how relevant the Mainstream Top 40 (Pop Songs) link is, seeing as the Grammys are awarded "without regard to album sales or chart position."
  • I would like some other opinions with regards to whether or not to redlink the unlinked songs.
  • I am with Another Believer; if the songs don't have articles, a link to its album appearance instead would be better (the reader wants to know more about the song, and the album's entry seems to be very informative in a few cases; better than a red link, I surmise).-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 11:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Some songs are not really Pop music, but I support anyway (maybe Grammy meant popular music, what is not the same as Pop music).-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I added a fact about Natalie Cole and Nat King Cole's win for "When I Fall in Love", as I thought this was a notable relationship and fact about a remake of one of his "signature hits". If reviewers feel this is not notable enough for inclusion in the lead, feel free to revert. --Another Believer (Talk) 22:49, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I also added a section to the lead about five artists that have received more than one nomination within the same year. Again, feel free to revert if deemed non-notable, though I do feel that this inclusion gives the lead a bit more bulk. --Another Believer (Talk) 23:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Novice7 (talk) 14:55, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Done--Blackjacks101 (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just a question: why is "signature hits" – in quotes?
Oops Done--Blackjacks101 (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • In third paragraph, other collaborators on "Lady Marmalade" are not mentioned.
Not Done becuase the third paragraph is explaining individuals who have had more than 1 nomination a year and the other collaborators didn't.--Blackjacks101 (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't think Rock on the Net is reliable. Can you find another link?
Other featured grammy lists use Rock on the Net so I think it might count as reliable.--Blackjacks101 (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's better to expand CNN as "Cable News Network". And, link the first occurrence.
Done--Blackjacks101 (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done--Blackjacks101 (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • For Ref 19, publisher is MTV Networks (you've not added publisher).
Done--Blackjacks101 (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I see. Images are good, the table looks good. Amazing work. Novice7 (talk) 14:24, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! All your issues have been dealt with =D--Blackjacks101 (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for the support!--Blackjacks101 (talk) 17:22, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you!--Blackjacks101 (talk)
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