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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 14:06, 29 January 2012 [1].

Grammy Award for Best Female R&B Vocal Performance edit

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Nominator(s): Novice7 (talk) 06:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria for an FL. The lists follows the format of other Grammy FLs. Thanks in advance to all the reviewers! Novice7 (talk) 06:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: An excellent list -- well done! I would recommend listing artists in the Nominees column in alphabetical order by last name (in other words, just rearrange the order so that Gladys Knight is listed before Nina Simone). I would support this list if this first concern is addressed and assuming all other reviewers' concerns are addressed. Also, I would double check that there aren't any re-directs due to MoS inconsistencies. Keep up the great work! --Another Believer (Talk) 19:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done. Thanks. (nominator has retired and has asked fellow editors to watch his nominations) —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 22:55, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 20:15, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • In the Aretha Franklin photo caption, remove the hyphen from "eleven-times". That's a stray one.
  • In many other photo captions, with "xxx nominee, including xxx award winner xxx", the least that could be done is have commas before the winners' names. Not a big fan of that format in general; I find it a bit clunky.
  • What makes Rock on the Net (second general reference) a reliable source?
  • What makes Indiaserver (ref 6) a reliable source?
  • Ref 21, from Billboard, could use a little more formatting than it's currently got. It looks barebones next to the other Billboard links. Giants2008 (Talk) 03:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Both Another Believer's and Giants' comments have been addressed. Novice7 (talk) 11:58, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 08:25, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "takes the runner-up position with eight nominations" not really keen on that, perhaps "is second with eight..."?
  • Franklin's caption, why is Award capitalised once?
  • 1976 nominees is missing a bullet.
  • Why isn't Franklin linked in 1982?
  • And Chaka Khan in 1985?
  • I would expect all winning works to have an article, surely being awarded a Grammy would make each and every one notable?

The Rambling Man (talk) 09:39, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator has retired and has asked fellow editors to watch over his nominations.
  • I have changed to "is second with eight nominations". That sounds better.
  • The caps must have been a typo. Fixed.
  • Replaced quotation mark with bullet. Another typo.
  • Have removed the <code>

Support Everything looks in order NapHit (talk) 22:25, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments I have read the article. It is very good but there are some issues with the references. I will be posting them soon. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 08:25, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • FN 7: Unlink work and publisher
  • FN 17 & 18: Is that publisher correct?
  • FN 22: Unlink work and publisher
  • FN 39: Link the publisher
  • FN 42: Check the formatting
  • FN 43:Unlink the publisher
  • FN 44:Use {{cite news}}

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 08:31, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All done. Thanks for reviewing! Ryōga Hibiki (talk) 11:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Fantastic work. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:47, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Ryōga Hibiki (talk) 12:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are welcome. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:10, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - with three comments:

  • Are the flags necessary?
  • In fact, is the "Nationality" column necessary? Until and unless someone from another country wins the Grammy, it seems redundant.
  • Is the smaller font size in the "Nominees" column necessary? And/or should those be a bullet list, or simply the nominees (each on a line)?

-- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, per request on talk page: If consensus shows a preference for the removal of the Nationality column for lists where only one nation is represented, there may be additional Grammy-related FLs needing to be updated. I always included the Nationality column for consistency among Grammy lists, but I don't feel strongly about including the column if only one nation is represented (not necessarily the case if multiple countries are represented). I will say, however, that including a sentence in the lead about all winners being American is including a fact that is not represented in the content below. Feel free to use the Grammy Awards task force talk page is further discussion is necessary. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:02, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Another Believer. If I remove the column, the readers cannot verify the information about the winners being Americans. I've followed the format of other Grammy FLs here. Ryōga Hibiki (talk • contribs) 07:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Goodraise (talk · contribs)
  • "a ceremony that was established in 1958"
  • The image captions read somewhat monotonous. Any chance you could add some variety?
  • Most images require alt text.
  • Usage of File:Nobel Peace Prize Concert 2008 Diana Ross1 cropped.jpg might be in violation of the license. Should "Photo: Harry Wad" be included in the caption? Or is the link to the File: page enough? I'd appreciate it, if somebody would enlighten me on the matter.

Goodraise 04:29, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All done. Ryōga Hibiki (talk • contribs) 07:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Legolas
  • Agree with Goodraise above, about the image captions and ALT. Some variety is needed I believe.
  • Do we have any other Grammy trophy image? That one in the infobox is just so so passe.
  • Red links can be there, no? They are notable enough with their Grammy win.

These are just from me. — Legolas (talk2me) 13:14, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Added alt and fixed captions. As for the infobox image, I'm afraid we don't have another one of the same quality. The available ones are just drawings. Ryōga Hibiki (talk • contribs) 07:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It was awarded for rhythm and blues songs. Actually, the award is given for the artists' vocal performance. Ryōga Hibiki (talk • contribs) 07:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
However, you linked "R&B" to "Contemporary R&B". I can't tell for all songs, but Aretha Franklin definitely did not record any contemporary r&b songs.--♫GoP♫TCN 11:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Linked to R&B. Ryōga Hibiki (talk • contribs) 12:52, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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