Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series Writing Team/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

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Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series Writing Team edit

Featured list candidates/Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series Writing Team/archive1

Nominator(s): — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 11:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe that it meets the every single criteria. Also, I believe it to be well sourced and clear. After much tweaking and further adjustments I feel that it is worthy of being a Featured List. I believe this list is worthy, considering I worked on it with the Featured lists, Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Younger Actress in a Drama Series, Outstanding Younger Actor in a Drama Series, Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series, Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series, Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series, Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series, Outstanding Drama Series, Outstanding Drama Series Directing Team in mind. If you oppose, please address your issues here so they can be resolved. , in mind. If you oppose, please address your issues here so they can be resolved. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 11:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I know all the others have been promoted in the same state as this one, but I don't think a bare table of winners and nominees is really featured material. Sure, the daytime Emmys don't get much coverage, but a minimal amount of analysis of the award would be appreciated. Besides the top winners, you could also include statistics for the shows with the most nominations, streaks, and award history. I see sources include the actual names of the head writer and other people who are members of the writing teams; why are they not mentioned at all? The award goes to the people, not just the show, so this article is seriously lacking. Are there any people who have won several times? Why did 2003 have seven nominations, yet 1986 to 1990 had uncontested winners? As I said before, info about the statuette is not relevant here. This article is about the Writing Team award, not who the statue was modelled after or its dimensions. In the lead, it should say it wasn't given out from 1982 to 1985. Reywas92^Talk 14:49, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Reywas92:, I am only going to add the names of the writers and the table of statics of the nominations. I am not going to remove the statuette information becuase I think it is needed and I won't remove it just because you don't like it. Plus, if more people did agreee with this, I would but it's only you. Finnally, you understand that daytime emmys do not get much coverage. If you don't agree with my doing, I suggest leaving the review and take the oppose with you like it never happen. I am dead serious. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:55, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, ″Why did 2003 have seven nominations, yet 1986 to 1990 had uncontested winners?″ I don't know, the sources says that happen however does not give the reasons. What am I suppose to do? — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The source for 1986-1990 is just the list of all winners. Was there really only one nominee, or could you just not find the rest of them? If not that's a major omission and I will not retract my oppose. Reywas92^Talk 01:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Reywas92:, I don't know, again there was no sources for the nominees with the exception of IMDB, but this is not really considered a reliable sources for awards. Therefore, that why there is no nominees beetween 1986 to 1990. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 10:26, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

13th Daytime Emmy Awards through 17th Daytime Emmy Awards all show there were indeed multiple nominations for those years, though only with a general link to the IMBD listing. This version before you made the table included all the writers' names, as well as the nominees for these years. I agree that IMDB is not an RS, but if this information is just going to be left out, remind me again, why should this be a featured list? Reywas92^Talk 11:03, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And I just noticed from that old version that the award was indeed given out from 1982 to 1985, with Guiding Light, Ryan's Hope (x2) and All My Children winning! It seems that the Soapcentral source and the statement in the lead are wrong. Reywas92^Talk 11:19, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Reywas92:, Are you telling me that version with no sources surpasses the ones with sources? That is wrong not soapcentral. Soapcentral is more reliable then IMDB therefore I am going with SC. I would of add the nominees if they were sources for them but there is not therefore we can infer that they were no nominees. You pratically telling me to add information that has no sources for them and remove the ones that do have sources. That wrong. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:40, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am. IMDB might not be preferred, but I highly doubt 1986-1990 [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6] are just totally making up the other nominees, and that 1982-1985 [7], [8], [9], and [10] completely fabricated the fact that an award for "Outstanding Writing for a Daytime Drama Series" was indeed given. Soapcentral as cited is wrong in its omission of those four years, and to quote you, I am dead serious. That page also incorrectly omits 1980 and 1981, but you managed to find other information about them, so why are you trusting it? Reywas92^Talk 02:31, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Reywas92:, If you have not notice Wikipedia and IMDB both have users registered to edit, therefore neither would be reliable without sources. SC does not, its a reporter that went to the DAYTIME EMMYS since 1999 and I highly doubt he is just totally making up the other nominees and that they were an award for "Outstanding Writing for a Daytime Drama Series" was not indeed given for those years. I am not going to add any information that does not have sources. Therefore, I am sticking with SC. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 09:47, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So you are saying that the information on IMDB about the writing award those years is just made up? I don't care that SC has sent a reporter since 1999, it's 1981-1985 that they clearly didn't. Just a couple minutes of Googling got me this newspaper article from 1985 that says All My Children won that year, while this article and this article from 1983 confirm that Ryan's Hope won for writing that year, so I'm pretty damn sure the award was given and SC's list is incomplete. These articles also provide all the nominees' names that Soapcentral overlooked: [11][12][13][14][15]. Therefore, I am sticking with Strong Oppose if you are going to fail to try to make a complete list, per criterion 3a. Reywas92^Talk 14:29, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To directors and delegates, I withdraw this nomination. Also,@Reywas92: I do not want you anywhere near my nominations in the future even If I am in desperate need of them. Thanks! — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:37, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, since you found all those sources and facts you can go right ahead a work on this article with the new informations. Since you have proven, you're a better editor. (sarcasm) — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:45, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh boy. The article is pretty close; it is that unreasonable to expect a complete list? Reywas92^Talk 06:29, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:12, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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