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Billy Wilder filmography edit

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Nominator(s): Cowlibob (talk) 12:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Wilder was one of the greatest American filmmakers. Known for film noirs such as Double Indemnity (1944), Sunset Boulevard, and the comedies Some Like It Hot (1959) and The Apartment (1960). As always I welcome all constructive comments to improve it. Cowlibob (talk) 12:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Jimknut (talk) 16:44, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments from Jimknut

Introduction

  • “While there he co-directed, and co-wrote the screenplay of French drama Mauvaise Graine (1934).” – Remove the comma after “co-directed”.
  • “They also worked together on the screenplay for comedy Ninotchka (1939), and romantic drama Hold Back the Dawn (1941).” – Add “the” in front of “comedy” and “romantic drama”.
  • “Two years later, he directed, and wrote the screenplay for the film noir Double Indemnity (1944).” – Remove the comma after “directed”.
  • “For the film Wilder won his first Academy Award for Best Director, and Best Screenplay with Brackett. The film also won Best Picture.” – Add a comma after “For the film”. Remove the comma after "Best Director" and change "and Best Screenplay with Brackett" to "and shared the Best Original Screenplay with Brackett".
  • “Wilder directed, and co-wrote the screenplay for Sunset Boulevard (1950)” – Remove the comma after “directed”.
  • “The film won the Best Picture Oscar”. – “The film won the Academy Award for Best Picture”.
  • “Wilder won for Best Director, and shared the Best Original Screenplay award with I. A. L. Diamond.” – Remove the comma after “Best Director”.

Filmography

  • Mauvaise Graine - In the notes column, you might consider stating that the other director was Alexander Esway.
  • The “Credited as” columns are subdivided into “Director”, “Producer”, “Writer”, and “Other”. You might consider adding links to the first three of these. The “Other” column has only one entry (Death Mills). Therefore, I suggest eliminating this column completely. The entry “Editing supervisor” in the notes section will suffice. You may consider changing the entry to "Wilder was the editing supervisor".

Both

  • Midnight, Ball of Fire, Double Indemnity, The Lost Weekend, Sunset Blvd., Sabrina, Some Like It Hot, and The Apartment have all been added to the National Film Registry. You may consider adding that information into the introduction as well as the notes sections for each film.

I hope these comments help. Jimknut (talk) 18:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimknut: Thanks for your review. I've made most of the amendments above. I've tweaked the prose in the lead. I think it's OK to leave the column headings unlinked as most people who read this article will know what those roles mean. Cowlibob (talk) 13:39, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Jimknut (talk) 16:44, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*Drive-by comment - as with your Keanu filmography, the lead is a bit prone to short, choppy sentences e.g. "He became a screenplay writer in the German film industry. His first screenplay was for the silent thriller The Daredevil Reporter. Wilder fled to Paris in 1933 after the rise of the Nazi Party." Try and combine some of the short and perfunctory sentences so that the prose has a bit more flow to it..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:41, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: I've further copyedited the lead so hopefully it reads better now. Cowlibob (talk) 13:40, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • "while there he co-directed" => "where he co-directed"
    • "French language version of Scampolo" - seems odd to have this much further up the table than Scampolo, prompting me to initially think "what's Scampolo?" Either move Scampolo above this one, or else remove the note here and instead put a not against Scampolo saying it's a German version of Un peu d'amour.
  • Think that's it from me! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Made the above amendments, I don't know why I had put the French version so far from Scampolo. Cowlibob (talk) 12:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Mymis

  • I believe the ship's name needs to be italicized.
  • Rogert Ebert needs to be wiki-linked, either as RogerEbert.com or Roger Ebert.
  • Excluding the last paragraph with lifetime achievements, a substantial portion of the introduction appears to be built around which Oscars each film received/won, which seems a bit redundant. Were the Oscars literally the only award show that existed at that time? By looking at the main article there are many awards he won, so why only mention Oscars, and so many times? Quite a few of his films are regarded as the best ever made which is barely mentioned. And what about box office? Was his filmography a financial success? Mymis (talk) 11:03, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Mymis: Thanks for your comments. I've changed the ship's name and added the wikilink. I've tried to incorporate other awards in the lead and reduce mentions of Oscars. Have included a bit on his box office performance as well as included some more on his most lauded films.Cowlibob (talk) 11:39, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
One last note. "The film won the Academy Award for Best Picture and the BAFTA Award for Best Film. Wilder shared the Best Original Screenplay award with I. A. L. Diamond." -> as now you included BAFTA award, so when you say Best Original Screenplay in the following sentence it is unclear which award it is. It needs a slight paraphrasing. Mymis (talk) 13:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Mymis: Amended it for clarity. Cowlibob (talk) 17:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review –

  • Ref 18 needs a publisher.
  • The other RogerEbert.com refs (12 and 53) should have their publishers be consistent.
  • This is more in the nice luxuries category than a necessity, but it would be great if the bibliography were alphabetized.
  • In a similar vein, the first book's ISBN could stand to be of the 13-digit variety, as the MoS recommends that over 10-digit.
  • Other than those small things, the formatting and reliability look good, and the link-checker tool shows no problems. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:24, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Giants2008: Sorted the above. Thanks for the source review. Cowlibob (talk) 10:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The changes all look good. This source review has been passed. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:38, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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