Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/1952 Winter Olympics medal table/archive1

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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 21:16, 31 July 2011 [1].

1952 Winter Olympics medal table edit

Featured list candidates/1952 Winter Olympics medal table/archive1

Nominator(s): Strange Passerby (talk • cont) and H1nkles 03:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Original contributor: Andrwsc informed.

Another FLC from me, this time with H1nkles and an Olympic medal table list rather than a medal winners list. I think this meets the FL criteria; including 3b, as despite having only 13 entries, the main article is already very comprehensive and an FA and the prose here would probably be rather out of place to squeeze in there. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 03:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Parutakupiu (talk) 19:55, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

;Comments:

In the first instance of "National Olympic Committees" you provide its abbreviation, but then you never use "NOC" again in the rest of the page ("nation" is used instead). If you don't intend to use NOC again, you don't need to give the abbreviation, but if I were you I would change all the "nation" instances for "NOC" which is more correct, in my point of view.
"There were 10 nations that won more than one medal." → "Ten NOCs won more than one medal."

Fixed, I left one instance where I felt "nations" worked better than NOC.

"After a 16-year ban from Olympic competition..." Sixteen? You mean since 1936? But there were no Games until 1948, so one cannot consider it a ban during that period. From what I know, Germany's ban began with the 1948 Olympics, the first after the Second World War. Try to clarify this.

Good point, changed "ban" to "hiatus"

"They won gold medals in both ~~and~~ two- and four-man bobsleigh events."

Oops good catch

"These medals would mark the first Olympic medals for the Netherlands." → "These medals were the first-ever Dutch medals at the Winter Olympics."

Fixed

figure-skater → figure skater;

Fixed

"... men's free skate program.";

Fixed

"They ~~did this by dominating~~ dominated the cross-country events...";

Fixed

That ref #2 anchor just below the medal table looks a bit lost there. Can't you find a better place?

Moved to the end of the introductory paragraph. Not sure of a better place for it but I agree, where it was wasn't good.

1950-1990 → 1950–1990 (en-dash not hyphen);
- That's a direct quote off the Olympic website; i.e. the IOC uses "1950-1990" with a hyphen. I'm inclined to not use an endash here as such, but would welcome other opinions. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 17:09, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fine with me. Parutakupiu (talk) 19:50, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Could you move ref #21 and #22 anchors to the end of the sentence? Ref anchors that source non-contentious material are better placed at the end of a sentence as per WP:INCITE;

Fixed

Specify that ref #5 is a Word document file;

Fixed but please check and see if it fits what you're talking about.

I noticed that you have two refs that come books (available online). Since you only use each of those sources one time in the Notes section, you could provide the full source info in this section, instead of the References section. Usually, that's only helpful if you have many refs from different pages of a book and you don't want to give the entire source info every time you use it.

Fixed

Any reason for the link to the "Historical Dictionary of the Modern Olympic Movement" lead to a section on the 1956 Winter Olympics?

Good catch, I don't know how that happened. I fixed it.

— Parutakupiu (talk) 16:26, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, I hope I've addressed all the concerns listed above. H1nkles (talk) _{citius altius fortius} 16:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Parutakupiu (talk) 19:55, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"30 National Olympic Committees (NOCs) participated in ... Of the 30 participating NOCs," repetitive and dull.

Fixed

"one medal, and athletes from eight of these won" unclear about "these" - reiterate NOC here.

Fixed

"There were 10 NOCs that won more..." -> "Ten NOCs won more..."

Fixed

"did not disappoint their fans " not encyclopedic.

Removed statement

US or Brit Eng? You have "meters" and "digitised" which are incompatible.

Fixed, I couldn't find "digitised" until I looked in the refs good catch.

Suggest linking "nordic combined" in the Highlights section.

Linked

"alpine skiing. She placed second" -> "skiing, placing second..."

I have a tendency to break up sentences, which is a bad habit, thanks for catching that one.

"eight out of a possible 12" 12->twelve here.

Fixed

Can we clarify that "hockey" is actually "ice hockey" for international readers?

The hockey has been iced

"Soviet team began to compete" do you mean that they actually entered the competition or that they became competitive? Not 100% clear for me.

I changed to the Soviet team entered the competition, which is to say that they had not previously competed. I hope that is more clear. If not I can change again.

"1950-1990" en-dash.
- This was also brought up above by Parutakupiu. "1950-1990" is a direct quote from the IOC database, which is why I'd prefer not to change it to an endash, but if the consensus is that it should be changed, that's fine. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 02:26, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - For the record, Dabomb87 changed it to an endash using a script earlier, which I missed. I'm fine with leaving it as an endash, since it's already been changed. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 02:29, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
en-dash in ref 15 too.

Fixed

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:53, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I made the fixes you suggested. Thanks for taking the time to go through it. H1nkles (talk) _{citius altius fortius} 15:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:03, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

Highlights: "when she won three medals in alpine skiing, placed second in the downhill and third in the slalom and giant slalom." "placed" → "placing"? Seems to work better that way after the comma.

Fixed

"These medals were the first-ever Dutch medals at the Winter Olympics." Remove first "medals" as a redundancy (two in the same sentence, both serving as the subject).

Fixed

Comma after Jeannette Altwegg?

Fixed

In reference 18, Sports Reference is missing an s after the first name. Minor, but worth taking care of. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:25, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow good catch and fixed. I addressed all the concerns above and thank you for reviewing the list! H1nkles (talk) _{citius altius fortius} 15:15, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Meets FL standards. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:03, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Had one small niggle, but it was easier to just fix it as I read. Courcelles 07:01, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to all of you for lending your support and expertise. H1nkles (talk) _{citius altius fortius} 15:28, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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