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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by GrahamColm 10:02, 7 October 2012 [1].

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Nominator(s): Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the final episode (technically, episodes) of the American sci-fi series The X-Files and it features the return of Fox Mulder! I am nominating this for featured article because I feel it is of FA quality. The article is comprehensive in nature, with sections on plot, production, themes, and reception. Furthermore, it is illustrated by free images and properly cited. Currently, the episode is a good article, having been promoted earlier this year. It has recently undergone a peer-review and was copy-edited a few days ago. I feel it is ready for the the next big step. Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • I know I am the article's copy-editor. But, I suggest withdrawing this nomination. As noted above in the instructions, you have to wait two weeks before nominating something new, since your first one was passed just today. Regards. TBrandley 19:49, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I think that's talking about re-nominating the same article again for FAR. This is a completely different article.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 20:03, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Oops, my bad then. TBrandley 20:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, the rule is that if a nomination is archived, the nominator has to wait two weeks before nominating any article. Yours was promoted, though, so it's okay. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:51, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
  • "Skinner takes Mulder's defense, while Scully, Monica Reyes (Annabeth Gish), Doggett, Marita Covarrubias (Laurie Holden), Gibson Praise (Jeff Gulka) and Jeffrey Spender (Chris Owens) testify on Mulder's behalf." -> I'd reorder the start of this to go "Scully, Dogget, Monica Reyes (Annabeth Gish), ..." so as to keep all of the newly-introduced names together. It seems a little clumsy to go introduced, new, introduced, new, new, etc.
  • "Actor Bruce Harwood, who played Jonathan Fitzgerald Byers on the show" -> I'd say we can just go with Jonathan Byers; if I'm not mistaken we don't actually learn his middle name in The X-Files but in The Lone Gunmen instead.
  • "The final scene of the episode was originally going to feature the Toothpick Man informing U.S. President George W. Bush, played by actor Gary Newton, of Mulder's escape." -> Given that the Toothpick Man is not mentioned in the plot, a brief aside to explain who he is and that he's played by Alan Dale might be a good idea.
  • "mainly the ones dealing with Scully's Catholicism" -> "mainly those", I believe would sound better.
  • "wherein the various finales were discussed by industry experts and television critics." -> I'd change "wherein" to "in which", and "various finales" to "various episodes" as the programme uses "finales" only a few words earlier.
  • Aside from that it's looking good to me, most of my concerns were already addressed in the aborted ACR. GRAPPLE X 00:24, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    How's it look now? Also, sorry about the ACR. :P--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:29, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Well that was bloody quick. Support now my concerns have been addressed. GRAPPLE X 00:32, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment
Quick concern about the article; according to the article List of awards and nominations received by The X-Files, the episode received an Emmy nomination for Dramatic Underscore, which isn't mentioned in the article. The nomination is mentioned here, and here but isn't verified directly by a reliable source such as the Emmy's website here. Can this be cleared up? Bruce Campbell (talk) 20:43, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've always found that the reliable sources tend to credits these awards to the series, and it's only things like IMDB that give specific episodes. On a rare occasion I've seen book sources divulge a particular episode but this particular one doesn't have an accompanying source like the earlier official guide books. I think it might have been Ruby2010 and TonyTheTiger who I had a previous discussion with about this but I can't quite recall where or why. GRAPPLE X 20:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Support; Since an actual reason has been cited. Bruce Campbell (talk) 21:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Image review from Crisco 1492

Addressed comments from Crisco 1492 moved to talk

  • Support on prose and images. Reads fine, images are all good. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:23, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Recently seen this to finish the series, and the article is another great job by Gen. Quon. igordebraga ≠ 18:52, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone wants to spot-check sources, some of the in-print ones can be verified via Amazon previews, like the Kessenich one, the Bush one, and the Fraga one. If you guys need anything else, I can send scans.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 19:11, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Spotchecks

  • Article: Several of the episode's scenes feature elements that reference earlier installments. The final scene in which Mulder and Scully speak in a hotel room is reminiscent of the series' pilot episode.[9]
  • Source: When reflecting on a similar episode in a hotel room in the "pilot"...
  • Article: Duchovny appeared in the first two via archival footage and only made a small cameo in the third.[18]
  • Source: Although glimpsed briefly in a reflection in Scully's eye, Duchovny's central role was with this episode was behind the camera
I can't see a reference to archival footage on this page.
  • Article: She notes that, in both cases, "man's curiosity is his downfall".[36]
  • Source: Like Pandora, man's curiosity is his downfall
  • Article: The majority of the episode—like the rest of seasons six, seven, eight and nine—was filmed in Los Angeles, California.[30]
  • Source: passim
  • Article: The article noted, that while the episode claimed to wrap up the story-arcs for the series, "the trial of Mulder ultimately resulted in very little satisfying payoff to the series overarching mysteries".[42]
  • Source: And while most everyone (including the Smoking Man) returned, the trial of Mulder ultimately resulted in very little satisfying payoff to the series overarching mysteries, and a second feature film certainly didn't' help matters.
No issues, except we need a page number to reference the usage of archival footage. Graham Colm (talk) 08:56, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the spot-checks. I added the references like you asked!--Gen. Quon (Talk) 02:16, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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