Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Suillus bovinus/archive1

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The article was promoted by Graham Beards via FACBot (talk) 15:14, 23 November 2015 [1].

Suillus bovinus edit

Nominator(s): Sasata (talk · contribs) & Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:58, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article is another fungal collaboration. Sources have been scoured. Only material not used was highly esoteric and likely of no interest to layperson. Got a thorough GA review. Please read and suggest improvements. Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:58, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

NB: This is a wikicup nomination for one of the nominators (i.e. me) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:41, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by an IP edit

~~"The fungus grows in coniferous forests in its native range, and pine plantations in countries where it has become naturalized." It is best linked.~~

ahaaa, nice find! Linked now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~"naturalized" versus "parasitised", should be consistent in style~~

good point - Briticised now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice picture in the infobox, BTW

thx Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:36, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

thx Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:34, 31 October 2015 (UTC)`[reply]

Comments by an Ceoil edit

Spot checks on refs 1 and 19; nothing untoward. Prose are crisp, economical and clear. Support. Ceoil (talk) 00:34, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

thankin' ye kindly.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:08, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by FunkMonk edit

"that medieval knights—who revered Tricholoma equestre—knights considered this mushroom fit only for cattle-drovers as it was not highly valued." One "knights" too many? FunkMonk (talk) 16:36, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

whoops! fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:20, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"circumscribed" could perhaps be explained.

I'm happy with just the link, but I suppose we could just replace with the more layreader-friendly "described" or "created". Cas? Sasata (talk)

I think it's good to keep it specific, layreaders will learn new things, if it can't be explained briefly in parenthesis or some such, I'd say leave it as is. FunkMonk (talk) 20:14, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"It is common in Lithuania.[23]" Seems like a very arbitrary statement, unless it is uncommon elsewhere in its range...

I appended ", where it associates with Pinus sylvestris, the only naturally occurring pine in that country." to that sentence, to hopefully make it less arbitrary (i.e., it illustrates a common ecological association). Sasata (talk) 19:50, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks better. FunkMonk (talk) 20:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise with the following: "In China, it has been recorded from provinces Anhui, Fujian, Guangdong, Hunan, Jiangxi, and Zhejiang." Why mention only Chinese regions at length? Or is it not found elsewhere in Asia?

I had the information at hand, so I put it in, but would be ok with trimming this. Will look for other Asian locales and get back to you on this. Sasata (talk) 19:29, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, also added a source for its presence in Taiwan. This new source suggests that its Asian distribution includes only China, Japan, and Taiwan. Thinking about it some more, I would like to keep the provincial Chinese distribution info, because China is a big place, and it isn't really any more detailed than what is already included about its US and Australian range. Sasata (talk) 19:40, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fine with me after the other countries were mentioned. FunkMonk (talk) 19:47, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My take on it was (is) that China is a big country, so locales within are good to have to narrow down occurrence to readers... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:40, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Fieldwork conducted in Sweden pine forests" Swedish?

whoops! fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:40, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"A common fungus native to Europe, it has been introduced to North America and Australia" Why no mention of Asia in the intro?

unconscious systemic bias - now fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:41, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support - All issues addressed, looks good. FunkMonk (talk) 10:16, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Cassianto edit

"Common names include Jersey cow mushroom, bovine bolete, and euro cow bolete. One proposed origin for the name is that medieval knights..." -- The origin of which name? We speak of three names in the previous sentence; I think you mean the origin for the Suillus bovinus name, right?

yep. tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:08, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

" A 2001 study found it was not closely related to other European species, but added that all populations tested were more closer to each other than any other and hence it was a cohesive species." -- "but added" adds nothing here and could quite easily be omitted in place of "and".

yep. tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:08, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"In Asia, it has been recorded from Taiwan..." -- recorded in? Maybe even "discovered"?

tweaked..."discovered" does strike me as a tad dramatic though Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:32, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- Three comments offered which in no way effect my support if you choose not to adopt. This is a good little article; precise, well researched and nicely written. Cassianto ^Talk 08:21, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comment: I note that there's no information in the ecology section about insects, despite the fact that maggots are mentioned in the edibility section; is there a mention in the literature? Josh Milburn (talk) 20:01, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I added this–not exhaustive, but representative. Sasata (talk) 20:19, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I had my say at GAC. Note to delegates: I was the GA reviewer and have worked with both Sasata and Cas many times. Josh Milburn (talk) 17:49, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through.Graham Beards (talk) 15:14, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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