Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Royals (song)/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 12 October 2020 [1].


Nominator(s): De88 (talk) 07:38, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about... the 2013 debut single by New Zealand singer Lorde. After another nominator was unable to get their request for GA nomination approved in 2014, I translated the article from Portuguese, where it was designated FA-status, to English in 2018 and nominated it for GA. The nomination passed, albeit, without a proper review. However, I requested a copy-edit of the entire article a week later and the reviewer relayed to me that they edited the article to meet the standards of a proper GA. Two years later, after working on the article for sporadic time periods, I believe it now meets or is relatively close to meeting the requirements for FA-status. De88 (talk) 07:38, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and suggest withdrawal to return after an independent copyedit and peer review. You have obviously put a lot of work into this article, but I do not think the prose is yet ready for FAC, and suggest that an independent copyedit (with attention to MOS issues like MOS:LQ as well) will be the fastest route to a bronze star. There is awkward prose throughout that needs tightening: two samples only:

  • However, she realised those songs had too many references to luxurious lifestyles which did not represent her reality, and was another reason she wrote the song.
  • More broadly, historic aristocrats also inspired the song. She explained the lyric "We're driving Cadillacs in our dreams" was something she read in a diary she received at the age of 12.

and overuse of redundancies like subsequently when the chronology is already clear. Also, the excellent essay WP:RECEPTION may be useful. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest withdrawal I concur with Sandy's assessment. While the prose is detailed and covers all relevant matters related to the song, it is far from FA quality in my opinion. Some examples that I can take only from the lede include Lorde co-wrote the song with her producer Joel Little (is Little really her producer?); Its lyrics detail disapproval (not sure if "detail" is the appropriate word choice here); In the media, the song has been credited for inspiring some artists to adopt its minimalist sound (credited by whom? And I'm pretty sure "In the media" is the wrong choice of word). A request for copyedit at GOCE may be a good start, (talk) 11:26, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator comment - It seems this is not at the level required for nomination yet and should proceed through some independent copyediting and review. Therefore, I will be archiving it shortly. --Laser brain (talk) 00:47, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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