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The article was promoted by GrahamColm 10:23, 21 April 2012 [1].

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Nominator(s): Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:14, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because it got a thorough GA review (thanks J Milburn and Guettarda) and I think it's about as comprehensive as possible, and the equal in prose of other FAs I've done. Have at it. This is a wikicup nomination. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:14, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Well, you should double check that prose claim :P There's an error in the opening sentence, haha. No worries though, honest mistake. Also, you might want to revise usage of restrictive vs non-restrictive clauses throughout. I'll try reviewing this exhaustively as soon as possible. (: Auree ★★ 01:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Be consistent in use of "Retrieved on" vs "Retrieved"
  • Be consistent in when you provide state for AU locations, and whether these are abbreviated
  • Don't repeat cited sources in External links
  • Check for minor inconsistencies like doubled periods
  • Use a consistent date formatting
  • Always use endashes for ranges. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • ran autochecker for dashes, and scanned. Can't see any outstanding hyphens....? Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:11, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Casliber. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Comments from Jim A few quibbles of course Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:48, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think we link countries, not even Australia
  • Western Australia should either be lower case W if it's geographical, or linked to the state at the first occurrence (like Queensland) if that's what it means.
    • linked - the size of the state means the two are almost synonymous anyway... :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:59, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Northern Territory and Brisbane need links
  • Pacific Islands (x2) Not clear why "island" is capitalised. Note that the Pacific Island article (not linked) is internally inconsistent with regard to both capitalisation and definition.
    • Googling the term suggests that the term is official enough to be capitalised as a unique descriptor, so I'll go with that (but can be swayed the other way). Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:59, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Distribution is a bit vague to say the least; we are told Pacific Islands, but only Tonga is mentioned. Does it occur on Hawaii? Easter Island? I appreciate that you may not be willing or able to list every island, but even Fiji and New Zealand don't get a mention.
    • I have found getting details on Pacific Island distribution generally tricky to say the least. The source says only "throughout pacific islands" which is very frustrating. It definitely doesn't grow in NZ but I haven't seen a source which specifically states that. I'l try and find some more sources for occurrences to give a better idea. found some more details which lists the islands I already know but is good to delineate. However I can only reiterate what the sources say. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:08, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Buttress, fig wasp — link in lead?
  • fruit ripen x 2 — I can see that this is grammatical, but it would read easier if one or other of the words gained an "s"
  • although peak in autumn and winter — is there a word missing?
  • flowers aligning an internal cavity — is aligning the right word here, can't visualised what is meant?
  • Victorian — link required to avoid ambiguity
  • Preferring high nutrient soils with high water content — too high
  • Watling, Dick (2003). A Guide to the Birds of Fiji and Western Polynesia. Suva, Fiji: Environmental Consultants. p. 122. ISBN 982-9030-04-0. Many-coloured recorded as particularly fond of this fig. The pigeon's range in western Polynesia includes Fiji, Tonga, and both Samoas, if that helps.
    • yes - sources for pacific island material has been tricky to come by. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:48, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • You make this tree sound quite innocuous, shouldn't strangler fig appear somewhere?
    • annoyingly strangler fig is listed as a disambig page, which if it has a description, probably shouldn't be. Will maybe do some rejigging and then link. bit easter eggy but linked in ecology section. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:42, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • amenities planting there — "there" may be redundant, shouldn't it be "amenity planting"?
    • done. my other problem was trying to find somewhere to link amenity to..... Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:43, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cas, I'm not far off supporting, but I don't think the range is correct. I had a look around, and found this, this and this which suggest that the correct range, other than Australasia, includes eastern Indonesia and the south west Pacific (not all Pacific islands). This is consistent with the lack of info from islands further north or east than western Polynesia. Unrelated, I found some religious stuff. I'd like you to review these sources and see if you need to tweak. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, nice finds - missed the range on the Flora of Oz page which encapsulates it well (Sulawesi is west of the Moluccas). Fixed up now. I reffed p. 203 of that religious one. Frustrating as there are some pages missing from my googleview but obliqua is mostly mentioned only in passing. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images are fine. All Wikipedian/Flickr-user created, licensing checks out. J Milburn (talk) 20:49, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support A few quick thoughts from J Milburn. Delegates, I was a GA reviewer.

  • "into dryer habitat" Can "habitat" be used like that?
  • It may be worth noting how Ficus brachypoda can be differentiated from this species; they are clearly similar. Is it just the range?
  • A range map would be helpful, but I appreciate that these are not always possible
    • yeah this is a problem on two counts - the scaling would be tricky, having the east coast of Australia but spanning out to Sulawesi in one direction and out into the Pacific the other, but more trickily I am not sure about the range in the Moluccas, Sulawesi or in New Guinea. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:37, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The habitat is warm temperate to moist subtropical rainforest as well as littoral rainforest." Could do with a restructure
    • upon thinking about it I just removed the second bit, as it can be both littoral and non-littoral...so...the bit doesn't help and just complicates things. I don't think we lose anything by its removal. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the Geometer Moth species (Scopula epigypsa)" Remove the brackets?
  • "its small leaves and trunk's propensity to thicken,[30] give it attributes optimal for a tree 10–80 cm (4–32 in) in height" odd comma use.
    • yeah, was to slot ref after. I removed comma, placed ref at end and added a commented out comment stating what the refs are citing. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Barlow's specimen from Brisbane won a prize at the Bonsai Clubs International competition in 2006" His only specimen?
    • no idea - thought this was the simplest way of mentioning it without going into that... Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • How about something like "Barlow entered a specimen from Brisbane to the Bonsai Clubs International competition in 2006, winning a prize."? J Milburn (talk) 10:55, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I also made a few edits- revert if need be. J Milburn (talk) 22:10, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your fixes; changes to support above. J Milburn (talk) 09:13, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Just a couple of minor comments which don't effect my support:

  • Distribution and habitat - The first sentence is quite long and the clauses don't seem quite parallel. Any chance of splitting it up?
  • Done. damn these disparate islands making reporting cumbersome.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Uses, "14 m (4 ft) tall " Might want to check this conversion...
  • Oops, missed that. left out a "6". done now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise looks quite good...another great article! Dana boomer (talk) 15:32, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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