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I appreciate you helping me get my bearings. I know we are working through disagreements on the Kamma article, which I hope will come to fruition in the end because I still hope we will both be able to get good faith work done since Sitush is taking a break from Wikipedia. I appreciate it. Thank you Kautilya3 --Vivek987270 (talk) 21:23, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

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Musunuri Nayaks are Kammas Evidence

Kautilya3 and Ventrun I have found the specific quotes that was requested to keep the Kamma tag on the Musunuri Nayak page. Since my editing privileges are gone, I sincerely request that you guys post these citation on the page, along with keeping Talbot's work.

“The Musunuri family probably hailed from the village Musunuru in the Krishna district. They belonged to the fourth caste (Kamma).” Page 168 [History of the Andhras upto 1565 A. D. Durga Prasad] www.katragadda.com/articles/HistoryOfTheAndhras.pdf

"Within a short time afterwards, the Andhras no doubt liberated themselves from the oppresive Turkish rule. But Andhradesa was once again partitioned between four mutually warring kingdoms - Musunuri (Kamma) kingdom of Warangal . . .” Page 82 [Socio-cultural history of ancient and medieval Andhra by B.S.L Hanumantha Rao] https://books.google.com/books?id=GkNuAAAAMAAJ&q=Socio-cultural+history+of+ancient+and+medieval+Andhra+by+B.S.L+Hanumantha+Rao&dq=Socio-cultural+history+of+ancient+and+medieval+Andhra+by+B.S.L+Hanumantha+Rao&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjTotGb5NzhAhVvh-AKHW2nAtgQ6AEwAHoECAIQAg

On page 38, of A Forgotten Chapter of Andhra History Professor Mallampalli Sōmaśēkharaśarma states "Prolaya Nayaka or Prolanedu of the Musunuri Family was a young and darling chieftain born in the caturthakula or the forth case. He was the grandson of a Kamma Nayakudu in the service of the Kakatiyas." This view is iterated on page 33 as well. https://books.google.com/books?id=AnxAAAAAMAAJ&q=Mallampalli+S%C5%8Dma%C5%9B%C4%93khara%C5%9Barma&dq=Mallampalli+S%C5%8Dma%C5%9B%C4%93khara%C5%9Barma&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwil1eje49zhAhUQSN8KHTT1CmwQ6AEwAXoECAMQAg

NOTE: (I did not put Kamma inserts in there. They are part of the quotes. Feel free to check through the book links attached.)

Outside of these specific quotes and pages by three notable Andhra Historians and Professors, Etukuri Balaram Murthy also mentioned that Musunuris are from the fourth-caste of Kammanadu (which have to be Kammas). In, Vedasara Ratnavali, Sastry stated the same thing Book on page 21 Link: (https://archive.org/details/VedasaaraRatnavaliPartII). The town Musunuru is in Krishna District, so that itself validates the claim. Moreover, the inscription issued by Musunuri Gundaya (South Indian Inscriptions Volume 4, Page 146) mentions he belong to Chathurtha varna of Kammanadu. https://archive.org/details/SouthIndianInscriptionsVol041923

There is too much evidence to exclude that Andhra Historians believe that Musunuri Nayaks are Kammas. Three Direct quotations, two explicit mentions in books, and primary sources of inscriptional and geographical evidence.

Vivek987270 (talk) 19:04, 19 April 2019 (UTC)