Vanished user 83746231

July 2022

Hello, I'm The Eloquent Peasant. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Menudo (group) have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 18:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, the reason I undid it as Eloquent says, is we have to be careful with certain assertions here on Wikipedia. We do not want a lawsuit and in cases like these, where no one has been convicted and nothing proved, the words "alleged" and "allegedly" are great assets and should be used. Even in the case of a conviction, I think we should say "xxx is (or was) a convicted (murderer, robber, etc)" or "convicted of this and that" instead of "xxx is (was) a (murderer, robber)" because that way we are not saying the person was what the person is said to have been, not only because in many cases people who were considered guilty were later exonerated either in life or in death, but also because , as aforementioned, in unproven cases like this, cases that have never gone to court, we could (I think), be held liable. I still hope, as I see your user page has been taken out, that you feel welcome to return Natercia and be a member of our community in the near future. Thanks and God bless and thank you The Eloquent Peasant, for telling Natercia about it!Antonio Malo Malo Malo Martin (eeeeehhhhhh?) 09:17, 7 July, 2022 (UTC)