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editHello. The sources you used for the 2023 and 2024 election result tables do not contain the results you added to the tables. Could you provide sources supporting the claimed number of votes and seats won by the parties listed. Thanks, Number 57 13:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Starting from Paragraph 13, the source I had “AlAraby” for the 2024 election started listing the names of the candidates the won and lost from each political bloc. It stated how much votes did the candidates that won got and I got the number of votes for the rest of the candidates from “Al-Qabas National Assembly DB”. Yes it didn’t have tables just we had, but it clearly stated the names of the candidates from each bloc. Tawtheeeq (talk) 14:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I can see in the AlAraby source, paragraph 13 gives figures for three Popular Action Bloc candidates, which total 15,409 (not the 15,886 figure in the table).
- The next paragraph mentions two Islamic Constitutional Movement candidates whose total vote was 9,540 while the results table has 11,139.
- Where is the Al-Qabas National Assembly DB source? Cheers, Number 57 15:23, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- In Paragraph 13, it’s says that from “Hashd” Mutib Al-Rathaan lost (doesn’t mention votes) and Basil Al-Bahrani won with 3631 votes and Mohammed Musaed won with 7644 votes. While from the Democratic Forum, Mohammed Jawhar Hayat got 4134 votes while Saud Al-Babtain lost (doesn’t mention votes). You probably got the 15409 by mixing these numbers.
- In Al-Qabas DB (https://elections.alqabas.com/)
- Al-Rathaan of Hashd got 4611 votes so the total number is 15886
- Saud Al-Babtain of the Democratic Forum got 907 making their total 5041.
- and continues with Hadas, Taalof, Thawbit Al-Ummah, etc. With the names they mention I either get the number of votes from the article (if stated) or from Al-Qabas’ DB. Tawtheeeq (talk) 15:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks – where in the Al-Qabas’ DB does it say the party? Number 57 17:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- It doesn’t, it just has the candidates name, number of votes, tribe and sect. I get the party info from AlAraby and the number of votes from Al-Qabas. Tawtheeeq (talk) 17:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks, and sorry for all the questions. I've used the two sources to produce a by constituency results table. There were a couple of differences in the totals I got for Islamic Constitutional Movement and the Justice and Peace Alliance, so perhaps you can check the parties for each candidate are correct. Also, the total number of votes was around 5,000 less, which I can't explain. There also seemed to be a candidate (ranked #29) missing from constituency 1 in the Al-Qabas source.
- You might also want to check the names of the candidates – I put the names in the Al Qabas source through Google Translate, which threw up some mildly amusing errors, such as فهد عبدالله مزعل = "Fahd Abdullah is annoying". There was also a rather unfortunate one for مهلهل خالد أحمد جاسم المضف... Number 57 21:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- And sorry, one more question: Is Taalof the National Islamic Alliance? Number 57 22:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Although they both share the same name in English. One is Tahalof (NIA), and the broke that broke off is called Taalof. With the latter having seats in parliament. Tawtheeeq (talk) 23:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Great, thank you. And I realised I made a mistake with the second Justice and Peace Alliance candidate, so that total is now the same. The only ones that are now different to your totals are the Islamic Constitutional Movement and Independents. Number 57 23:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- The numbers should be accurate right now. Thanks for your help :) Tawtheeeq (talk) 23:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Great, thank you. And I realised I made a mistake with the second Justice and Peace Alliance candidate, so that total is now the same. The only ones that are now different to your totals are the Islamic Constitutional Movement and Independents. Number 57 23:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Although they both share the same name in English. One is Tahalof (NIA), and the broke that broke off is called Taalof. With the latter having seats in parliament. Tawtheeeq (talk) 23:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- It doesn’t, it just has the candidates name, number of votes, tribe and sect. I get the party info from AlAraby and the number of votes from Al-Qabas. Tawtheeeq (talk) 17:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks – where in the Al-Qabas’ DB does it say the party? Number 57 17:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Re Thawabit Al-Umma, there is no need to translate party names into English – what matters is how the party is referred to in English-language sources, and as far as I could see, "Thawabit Al-Umma" was the most commonly used name. This is why we use names like Plaid Cymru or Likud – both are best known by their Welsh/Hebrew names rather than an English translation. Cheers, Number 57 15:24, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- This also makes me think that National Islamic Alliance (Taalof) is probably misnamed and might just be best as Taalof? How is it commonly referred to in English? Cheers, Number 57 15:32, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- To be honest, I don’t see much coverage for Kuwaiti political blocs in English, especially for new ones like Taalof. Tahalof used to be commonly referred to as the National Islamic Alliance (NIA). So I’m guessing same goes for Taalof as they have similar outlooks and founding members. While I’m guessing Thawabit Al-Umma has a vastly different outlook as they might see that transliterating their name might be considered westernization or globalization. Tawtheeeq (talk) 06:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)