User talk:Soap/Archive 12

I view my own contributions page frequently, and thus don't usually need to be alerted when someone's replied to me with a {{talkback}} notice.

Please let me know if something on this page appears strangely; it's mostly customized and I only have one computer to test its appearance on.

Thanks Alot!

Why did you delete my page? I worked so hard on it!

Hello, Soap. You have new messages at Techboy12345's talk page.
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Techboy12345 (talk) 17:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

It was three lines long. The content was:

== Tech Dude ==
Real Name: Kenny H.
== About Him==
Kenny H. lives near the river. He works on a search engine named Junior - A Live Community
== UNDER CONSTRUCTION ==
I need help"'

I explained why that's not appropriate on your own talk page.

—Soap— 00:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

you have been a great help to me {{unblock}}

HELP!!!

{{Unblock on hold}} Rsteinhardt (talk) 18:01, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I want to respond to NW.

This is not the IP that has made the threat. You see, he asked me a question on my latest sock's talk page that I wanted to rephrase the answer, but then this guy out of no where made you protect his talk page before I could send the answer. 65.81.133.176 (talk) 19:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

If you are Frypod I doubt that he will be interested; if not you can post on your own talk page and I'll make sure he'll see the message. —Soap— 19:48, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Soap

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Thank you for the revert and your overall vigilance. Sincerely, Tomas. Tommy! [message] 00:24, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

False Positive report response needs clarification

I hope you will not mind my turning to your talk page for clarification of the non-responsive handling of my complaint about "false positive" filtering of my attempted contributions to an article on the Arab-Israeli conflict. I find it significant that in years of contributions to Wikipedia, this is the only forum in which I have had such problems, or been gagged. Perhaps you can at least clarify to me what is going on, and why, and who is doing it? Thanks. 122.107.235.166 (talk) 05:02, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

There is nothing that I could do even if I agreed with you ... as a banned user, which you have yourself admitted to being, even potentially "good" edits are not allowed. And I can't even say I agree with you because I know nothing about the original conflict which led to your ban. My only involvement in this case is interpreting and fixing problems with the edit filter that you happened to hit. 3 ¢ soap ^Talk/_{Contributions} 09:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Just doing that would be useful. But that has not been done. As for being a "banned" user, I am not even really that. I merely suppose that this word applies to the reality of the "filter,", so I used it, but the actual situation is very unclear to me. Since the banning itself does not seem to follow stipulated Wikipedia procedures, so that no reasons have been given, no one can be traced who actually did the "automated filter" modification and no term has been stated for its operation, I do think that there are issues needing clarification and correction, i.e., 1. nature and even legitimacy of this "filter," 2. reasons for its original imposition even if illegitimate, 3. person who is responsible for this manipulation of the system, 4. term of its operation, and 5. possible ways to correct it. Furthermore, and quite simply the filter does not actually discriminate in terms of content as it says it does: it is indeed a false positive. The whole thing is weird. My IP address has not been blocked, and there is no reference to it in Administrative Notices or whatever the list of blocked IPs is called. How do I go about getting an appeal on this? Someone, and it is not me, has rorted the system and abused it in excluding me without just cause --as it appears simply to silence me since I did not agree with their anti-Zionist views and sought to contribute just a single pro-Israel sentence clause with further citations to balance a highly partisan summary assertion in the main article, for crying out loud. That should be a matter of concern to administrators.122.107.235.166 (talk) 18:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Guide_to_appealing_blocks#Arbitration_enforcement_blocks is your guide; if you want to appeal the block you should email Arbcom (because if you are who I think you are, the blocking admin was simply acting as a clerk and is not really the one who initiated the ban). As for my involvement, I have no opinions on this issue and I don't need to have opinions on the issue to work and maintain the edit filter. If Arbcom decides that the filter is no longer necessary or that it should be changed, however, I can do that (although it's more likely that an Arbcom member would change it directly). 3 ¢ soap ^Talk/_{Contributions} 10:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the referral.122.107.235.166 (talk) 08:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your support :), now and earlier on Comparison between Roman and Han Empires (I have a long memory). Unfortunately there seems to be a little clique here who wants me gone; I have a suggestion; if you want to see the articles as I have edited now, copy/save the relevant version to your userspace as soon I expect (and in some cases this already happened) huge chunks of material to be deleted, tons of references to "oriental despotism", that medieval Europe invented gunpowder, etc inserted. This has already happened to some extent:12 3 I might stay here but my enthuasism for editing wiki is mostly gone; I might edit a few articles on libertarianism, Chinese economic reform, world war II and the like if I stay. If you really want to help me, perhaps check out and give some suggestions on my current GAN of Chinese economic reform. Thanks. If you want to talk to me please reply to my email.Teeninvestor (talk) 01:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate your reply. I will watch the Chinese economic reform article, but it's a topic that is out of my field and the most I could do is fix typos and such (as I have done for previous GA nominees). —Soap— 17:39, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Filter 58

Actually, that user is in fact the Sebastian Vinatoru vandal, and the filter caught him. He creates articles about fake tennis tournaments in Romania (note the use of variant spellings for "open" because all his previous efforts have been salted). Unless it's causing some other problem, I'm going to change the filter back. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 20:57, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Gah. Sorry about that. I still worry about the filter blocking legitimate additions of the name (which is apparently real), but a quick search shows no hits in article space for either spelling, so I will trust your judgment and handle any future problems if and when they do come. —Soap— 21:03, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Soap. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:Edit_filter.
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Wikipedia:Pending changes/Vote comment

As you commented in the pending closure discussion I am notifying you that the Wikipedia:Pending changes/Vote comment is now open and will be for two weeks, discussion as required can continue on the talkpage. Thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 01:16, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

No worries. And thank you for popping by to say hi. The Transhumanist 23:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Racism against whites

As the person who turned this into a redirect, you may be interested to know I have nominated it for deletion. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 August 24#Racism against whites. Robofish (talk) 22:00, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

NAMBLA

The hidden comment you removed "They won't tell" is factual and stated in a humorous tone. The other hidden comment "Sex before 8" was their actual slogan for many years. It's factual, and has sources, but I decided for obvious reasons against making it visible in the article. A tactic I'm trying with this article is to balance the ickiness with some levity in the hidden comments. What do you think? Lionel (talk) 01:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering... What prompted you to look at hidden comments? I thought they were hidden. Lionel (talk) 01:08, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I would keep those out because it's not really "encyclopedic" and because, even aside from that, some people would think that even the idea of making jokes about NAMBLA is in poor taste. However the reason I was editing that article was because Im not comfortable with Nambla's website being on the blacklist while we still have links to it in the article. I'm not that familiar with how the URl blacklist works, and I wanted to see if it was possible to edit the line that contained the URL without triggering the filter. And it is possible, so it's not, in my opinion, an urgent problem that needs to be fixed, but still I think we will either have to whitelist the links that are in the article now, or remove all links to Nambla even in its own article. I will look at this some more soon. —Soap— 01:09, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the domain is blacklisted, just some (?) of the pages, but I can't tell for sure. E.g. http://www.nambla.org/welcome.htm triggers the filter. I kinda need this one to work, however... Lionel (talk) 01:16, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it's the whole domain: [1] ... previously existing links will survive a blacklisting, but if someone were to remove them, they wouldnt be able to be restored by anyone other than an administrator. L ike I said, I will look into this, but I want to know the whole story before I do anything even very simple. —Soap— 01:18, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey... having nambla.org back (or selected links) would be helpful with the article [2]. Thanks Lionel (talk) 01:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

As an administrator I have the technical ability to edit the blacklist, but that doesnt mean that I have the authority to make unquestioned changes. Looking at the original addition I suspect it was added deliberately, with full knowledge that links to NAMBLA already existed, and I don't think it should be removed. I was suggesting you ask AB because she's the one who added the entries and would be in a better position to say whether the links that are currently on there are OK to be whitelisted or if NAMBLA should be blacklisted entirely, including the links that are in the article today. But I can ask her if you'd rather I do it. She seems to be taking a short wiki-break anyway. Would you be OK with just linking to the pages with plaintext links, or using non-URL templates as if they were printed material? —Soap— 00:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

oh, I just found this; I can see now how you may have thought it was Shirik who added them. —Soap— 11:41, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Paulius Galaunė

I was just looking to remove that image, too. Not sure what's going on there.... JNW (talk) 22:33, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

User:94tf11

Hi Soap, could I suggest that you also remove this user's talk page privileges? They seem to be intent on modifying warning templates which have been previously left for them. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 23:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Usually I wait to see if they're going to put up an unblock request, however unlikely it may be that they'd actually be unblocked, but this person doesnt seem to want that. Done. —Soap— 00:07, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 00:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Out of retirement

I thought I would let you know that I've decided to return to Wikipedia, only in a semi-retired state instead of completely retired. Life has somewhat settled down for me, and since I'm ditching pre-calculus I'll have a little more free time on my hands. The Raptor ^{You rang?}/_{My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions} 00:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

RfA thanks spam

Hello Soap, thank you for supporting my RfA!
I was promoted with a final tally of 65/4/3.
I hope I can live up to everyone's expectations, do my best for Wikipedia, and take to heart the constructive criticism. Always feel free to message me if I'm around.

Magog the Ogre (talk) 11:17, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

WCHA‎

Could you step in on this situation? I have User:Bhockey10 who is constantly changing WCHA to a redirect to some tiny hockey league over a disambig page. I have warned the user, but they are clearly in WP:OWN mode. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 22:25, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for looking into it though. :) I think we are about done hashing it out on our own. :) Again, thanks for looking. :) Take Care...Neutralhomer • Talk • 22:40, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Florence

Most of the intermediate edits were trivial (wikilinking, categories etc), so the copyright violation for which it was twice deleted remains. It is also tagged for deletion as an unsourced BLP, so I've speedied it out of its misery. It's probably easier for someone to recreate from scratch than try to sort this out. Thanks for the tip, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage. The Thing // Talk // Contribs 13:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

I couldnt believe how many damned portals got the image and there seemed to be no action - sorry that I have left it up to you to revert SatuSuro 14:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Dear Soap, thanks for the questions; and thanks for the support vote; and thanks for the lovely comments. In other words, thanks :):):) Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 19:21, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

AfD for Talakaipau

Thanks, I intent to maintain the AfD and if you can fix it please do so. I have check the references and that is why there are no Inline Citation as the sources does not support the article.

The Talakaipau page is an attempt to carry the claim that Namoa was King but it can not be verify as there is no inline citation and it can not be referenced as I have seen these references. Other Article was created to carry the Namoa was King claimed and we have fixed some of those like, Aleamotu'a Nuku'alofa Kolomotu'a. The articles that we can not fixed are Talakaipau and Hala 'o Vave and I have tagged it for AfD.Puakatau (talk) 06:10, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

The Namoa article have been deleted as the administrator agree that their was no verification after 3 years and it can not be verrified.

Thanx

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		This is technically for people helping "new editors" but thank you for your recent assistance. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 01:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Request for rollback rights

Hi, I have had more than 100 edits on Wikipedia and I'd very much like to help fighting vandalism with Huggle. TYelliot (talk) 15:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I AM SORRY

sorry for that mistake i made. i try to undo the vandalism, but i undo the vandalism fighter instead[3]. i hope you forgive me for this mistake.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 20:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

AfD for Talakaipau & Hala 'o Vave

Thank you, you can continue on and put them on so it can be included.Puakatau (talk) 03:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I have added on the requested explanation why I tagged AfD the Talakaipau article.Puakatau (talk) 15:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pending changes/Straw poll on interim usage

Hi. As you recently commented in the straw poll regarding the ongoing usage and trial of Pending changes, this is to notify you that there is an interim straw poll with regard to keeping the tool switched on or switching it off while improvements are worked on and due for release on November 9, 2010. This new poll is only in regard to this issue and sets no precedent for any future usage. Your input on this issue is greatly appreciated. Off2riorob (talk) 23:49, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

IP

The IP's previous IP was 82.18.164.15, which goes back almost a year, and that likely explains how he knows me. So I'm going to withdraw the AIV item. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→

Nope

Inka 888. Didnt want to respond there as Inka is getting enough attention from admins and helpful talk page stalkers... one big diff is Inka's making (finally) a very good turnaround and going through training sessions with his mentor (which he finally agreed to) and the tps' Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 01:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Blanking of Secret's RFA

Hello. I've questioned your decision to blank Secret's withdrawn RFA at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship#Blanking_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship.2FSecret, if you'd like to respond. He's not requested a right to vanish (he's only 'semi-retired', in fact), and so I'm not sure you've made the correct decision - Failed, withdrawn or successful, RFA's should always stay visible. Of course, you're welcome to disagree. Esteffect (talk) 22:17, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Soap

You deleted Latitude Varsity I need someone to assist me in the construction of an encyclopedia style explanation of Latitude Varsity please? Or guidelines as to how? This posting was not intentionally meant as an advertisement but more due to lack of knowledge. I do respect the wikipedia website as I use this often for my own reference too. Sorry. 41.185.108.195 (talk) 09:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I've created a very small "stub" article, patterned after the others entries on List of post secondary institutions in South Africa. There really isn't anything else that I can see on the website that can be added, because the website doesn't give information such as the number of students enrolled in the school or when it was founded. If you can find those things, you can add them, but adding back content like Our vision is to promote pathways of learning to economic liberty and self fulfillment for students working to achieve their individual goals for success., which does not tell people anything about the school, would not be appropriate. It would be best to look at the other entries on List of post secondary institutions in South Africa if you want to build up this article more. And if you do so, keep in mind that those are not necessarily perfect articles either, and that if one of them has content that is unreferenced or promotional or both, you should remove that too (or notify someone else), instead of adding more onto another article. —Soap— 11:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit filter manager permission

Hi Soap. My request for edit filter manager permission has been sitting unanswered for 10 days. Any idea how I can make some progress on it before my request gets archived? I'd really rather not go the RfA route right now, although a few folks are pushing me that direction. Thanks! —UncleDouggie (talk) 07:42, 30 September 2010 (UTC)