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"Arab Jews" is either willfully disingenuous or inaccurate at best. edit
Very few Jews have identified primarily as Arabs throughout history. Musta'arabim literally means "lives among Arabs". Were they Arabs, do you think it would make sense to denote them as living amidst Arabs?
The Jews that live in the Arab World and identify as Arab Jews are free to do so, but theirs is not the majority opinion on the identity and history of Eastern Jews, nor is it supported by many (if any) historical writings. There is a separate Wikipedia page to denote that minority view: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Jews
The name being used commonly in mainstream media is untrue, as is the claim that Arabs considered Jews "Arabs of the Jewish faith". — Preceding unsigned comment added by ADJOSC (talk • contribs) 14:15, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Well the term has been recognized and accepted as a category on Wikipedia so boo hoo hoo. Also, your rationale for why there cannot be "Arab Jews" also could apply to terms like "German Jews", "Russian Jews", "Iranian Jews", etc. Or, for that matter, other Arabs in general. Prior to the mid-19th century, the term "Arab" only referred to those of particular tribal origins in the Arabian peninsula. The majority of Arabic speaking peoples did not and were not identified as "Arabs" be they Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or Druze. The term's present usage arose in the 19th century when people began to conceive of themselves in the Ottoman Empire as nations and Arabic speakers began conceiving of the Arabic-speaking population on ethno-national lines, including all communities who natively spoke Arabic and followed Arab culture, with racial descent taking a secondary or tertiary role. Its an linguistic cultural category including a whole range of peoples which developed recently. To say there are no Arab Jews because they never saw themselves as such in history is what is disingenuous as it ignores a.) the fact that that would be true for all Arabs, not just Jewish ones (yes I call them Arabs and many sources including the Times of Israel have adopted the term "Arab Jews" so big whoop'; b.) You could say that for other Jewish communities called "Iranian", "German", "English", etc where there were debates whether Jews could be those things; c.) the fact that Arab Jews did distinguish thtemseles from other Jewish communities on account of having an Arabic language and culture (so the idea of Arabic-speaking Jews having a distinctive identity is actually quite old, even if it didn't result in the term "Yahudi Arabi", just as there was no "Al Arabi al Muslimin" back then either and d.) the fact that "Arab Jew" was indeed used to describe the Arabic-speaking Jews in the pre-modern era. Read Orit Bashkin's New Babylonians about Iraqi Jews. It is not a recent or made up term. It is no more a fake category than other categories. The only reason it annoys you is that you're staunchly pro-Israel and Zionists resent any identification with Arabs, viewing them as an enemy. Take your bad faith racism and leave me alone. It is not welcome on this page. Scarsdale.vibe (talk) 16:08, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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Good morning (or whatever time it may be at your place), your revert and edit summary at Arabs are a bit confusing. Could you please explain which version you reverted to and why you did so ? --Rsk6400 (talk) 06:09, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi I reverted to the earliest one I could find with the original info box prior to its edit by someone. The edit was what was confusing. I went back to the box that was in use for the page up till recently. There was no explanation for it and it was improperly formatted without the relevant characters, making the page look awkward. That is why I changed it. Scarsdale.vibe (talk) 16:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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- Not sure if you saw my previous reply so I'm going to put it here. I do not use mulitple accounts or coordinate editing with anyone outside Wikipedia. I only use this account. However, sometimes I forget to log into my account, so you see anonymous edits from a user number, which is what 216.80.94.66 actually is. That is just me having forgotten to log in, not using a different account or coordinating with anyone else. An oversight, not a deliberate action. Lately I've been making sure I'm logged in. Scarsdale.vibe (talk) 16:12, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
I do not use multiple accounts nor do I coordinate editing with people outside Wikipedia. I edit only from this account. Sometimes, however, I edit without logging in. User:216.80.94.66 is me without having logged in. I only edit from this one account. Its an oversight, not a deliberate action on my part. Lately I've been making sure I'm logged in whenever I make edits of any kind. Scarsdale.vibe
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- I did not use original research. I only included a category labeling him as an Indian of Iranian descent. Given how many generations Hindi had been in India (as noted by the article's own language which I did not write), he was seen as an Indian or "Hindi" by the Iranians among whom he settled, hence his name "Seyyed Ahmed Mousavi Hindi." So I thought it appropriate to include the category "Indians of Iranian descent". I did not write or add anything in the article text. Scarsdale.vibe (talk) 16:14, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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