User talk:Rossrs/archive5

Forgot tag sorry1 Its done ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 12:55, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Your're welcome -I have created tags to give a standard rationale which are now being used by other users I believe. If the rationale is given then it should qualify if the image cannot be replaced. Thanks for bringing the image to my attention. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 12:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

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Yes first of all I am using the year categories to put the titles into the pages removing pbvious foreign titles first. Then when this is done I was going to go through the lists and add the details and at the same time remove non American films -but it would take a great deal of time by myself!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 10:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for starting -1960 already looks the best list!!! If you could add like this or a small amount when you can - that would be a terrific help. All the best ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 13:07, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

When completed I'll go through imdb by year and add all the missing films and start the articles so eventually we should have a complete coverage of films and hopefully the stubs can become better articles. It will be a great resource for summarizing US film. Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 13:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Brown paper packages tied up with string

Hi,Rossrs
I recently did a few minor tidy-ups on the The Sullivans article.
As you started the article, you may perhaps be interested in its progress.
--Shirt58 11:32, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Cillian Murphy page

Hello again. It was nice chatting with you over on the actors group page. Since you seem to be a wise and experienced Wikipedian, I wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind taking a look at one of the pages I've spent the most time on: Cillian Murphy. I still have several things in mind to upgrade, but I would love to get your perspective on what it needs, if you have time. Thanks! --Melty girl 15:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your very helpful comments on Cillian Murphy. You've encouraged me to be bolder about making improvements to the page. And you've given me some very specific things to work on in the next few weeks. So far, I've edited down the lead, but I only felt comfortable removing those citations for facts which are also used below; the others stated opinions about what he's known for, so I felt safer keeping the footnotes. At any rate, I expect to have the article in better shape soon. Do you know what the favored way is to have it reviewed or featured? --Melty girl 20:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!! --Melty girl 20:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

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Mario Lanza

Actually I've always fought for infoboxes in the articles, but the majority seems against them. For a while I kept adding them back into the articles too, but it seemed like a waste of time. I still prefer the infoboxes in the articles, but there's not much I can do about it. Sorry if I seemed rude, but I'm not that experienced in that area of Wikipedia - I've always just added to articles and that's about it. Thanks for your message,
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No problem. I saw they sent you that "fair use" BS and I hate that. They deleted several months worth photos I had added because of that garbage so I usually do that when I see people having problems with fair use rational. That's a major problem on Wikipedia because instead of After Midnight helping you out and putting it in himself, he'd rather be lazy and have the image deleted.
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flagicons

i've noticed lately that you've been diligently removing flagicons from infoboxes. which has only been matched by Italianlover07 (talk · contribs) who continually re-adds them back....with us state flags. i was wondering if you have any suggestions for handling the dude. --emerson7 | Talk 18:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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Great Teamwork Barnstar for {{Infobox actor}}

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Stanley Tucci

Oops, that's what you get when you copy & paste. :) Thanks for the fix. Garion96 (talk) 14:08, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Cillian Murphy up for GAC

Hello again! I would love to get your take on my many improvements to Cillian Murphy since you last gave me (amazingly helpful) feedback. The article has been nominated for GA status. While I feel good about that and the modifications I've made recently, I did want to do a few more things for nominating it for GA (particularly in regard to the early part of his career, his most recent role in Danny Boyle's Sunshine and the lead section). Still, I'm hoping that this nomination is a good thing and not premature! I would love to get your feedback (and edits?), especially for the lead section. If you have time to take a look, please be as picky and detailed as you can in regard to GA standards. Thanks! --Melty girl 18:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for taking a look at the article! Your previous feedback was invaluable in guiding me towards bringing it up to GA standards.

Good point about negative reviews. At this point, it seems as though Murphy's arty resume and performances have made him very well-liked by major reviewers, but I can probably find something negative about Breakfast on Pluto. Men playing trans women tend to get at least some negative reviews, though I'm often suspect of transphobia in them. I found it very interesting, from a socio-political perspective, to compare reviews of Murphy in Pluto and Felicity Huffman in Transamerica, which came out at the same time. But I digress...

And thanks for helping out with the Red Eye image. As a Wiki newbie, I'm still somewhat confused by image and copyright issues. I was pleased, however, to find the candid photo of him on Flickr and get the photographer to license it, and I learned more about Wiki and copyright in the process. I would like to add one more image to the page, of Murphy in drag in Breakfast on Pluto -- I think that would make sense, rationale-wise, don't you?

Now I'm wondering how long the GA process usually takes. --Melty girl 16:51, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Ronstadt TIME

The issue has been resolved as to the photos noteworthiness and keeping and if you read the fair use rationale you see that there is no questions as to its fair use. These is a widely used photograph and because you are arguing its legal rights and copyright infringement the fair use rationale according to the copyright law expalins it, so drop it! Don't you read the fair use rationale on any photos, im a copyright lawyer, i know and because this info is by law "The fair use of a copyrighted work...for purposes such as criticism, comment,...scholarship...is not an infringement of copyright." and because the criticsm on this pic has already been deemed to be noteworthy to keep (read the discussion comments) this photo by law reflects the intent of section 107 of the United States Copyright Act of 1976 and stays. Also, This image was nominated for deletion on 2007 July 6. The result of the discussion was keep. Therefore because of its noteworthiness and if falls within the copyright requirements of section 107, it requires no tag. If you want to legally (fair use tag) challenge this go ahead, it will open up a lot of fun other challenges. And to just site Wiki policy will not change the facts. (Sharkentile 00:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)).

I'm not particularly worried about the image, but any user has the right to question the fairness of an image if it is being used with a fair use claim. User talk:BigrTex questioned it, and the tag was immediately removed. That assumes bad faith. The message that you left on my user page should have been left on User talk:BigrTex's user page, because this is the user that questions the validity of the use. Also, the tag should remain on the page until it's been resolved or if you have a reason to remove it, you should play fair and say why. There is a talk page for the image, there is also an edit summary, and you didn't use either of these options, and I guess I wasn't able to read your mind and know what you were thinking. But then again, I didn't know it was you because you weren't logged in when you made those edits. All I did was restore the tag. You really should leave a message on User talk:BigrTex's page if you disagree with him tagging it in the first place.

I didn't realize that you were a copyright lawyer. That's very interesting. Rossrs 13:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Elisha Cuthbert

Don't ya think that makes WP look like it doesn't have standard? Wikipedian 12:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

No, if I thought that I would not have done it. I explained why I added it, but I don't really understand your question. Can you please explain what you mean? Rossrs 13:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Nm. Ty for replyin', though. :) Wikipedian 14:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

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Emma Watson FAC, awards question

I see that you're on vacation, but if you have a chance -- and the inclination -- check out Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Emma Watson. I peer reviewed Emma Watson in order to give something back when I requested peer review for Cillian Murphy. And now I'm the only person so far who's given comments that dig deeply on the Emma Watson FAC review. You were such a great help to me when I asked for guidance on improving Cillian Murphy, and I know you would give such wise counsel and feedback to these editors. I've written some extensive criticism, but I'm betting you could say it better and then some. So, if possible... check it out.

Cillian Murphy just made GA and A-class, so thanks again for your help! I think it's ready for FAC now, but I wonder about something you might be able to answer: I've noticed that even in FA articles, awards lists/tables don't tend to be footnoted. Do you know what the rationale for this is? I've been wondering if I should offer citations or not before braving FAC. --Melty girl 01:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I've missed you around these parts. Just wanted to drop in and add a post-script to this now-outdated message. Emma Watson made some progress, including adding critical and box office info to the article, and other reviewers ended up joining in. Ultimately, it wasn't fixed up in time to make it through FAC. It was an interesting and valuable process though, and I'm sure it will be renominated, because the editors are quite passionate about the subject!

Also, I did end up nominating Cillian Murphy for FAC -- after adding footnotes for the awards -- and the review is still open, though I have no idea how much longer it will be open. It's been a little bit strange, though I guess that's to be expected, since it was my first time nominating. There haven't been many reviewers, though there have been three supports and one comment/discussion. The other two have opposed. One reviewer objected, though the comments made it seem like he hadn't read past the lead and one example of a problem was a misquote... and then he never returned to discuss changes, despite a respectful message left on his talk page. The other objector, the only person to assert that "extensive copyediting" was needed, made weak and sometimes incorrect edits to the page, so I was not sure how to handle it. It seems like you're supposed to try to please whoever happens to come along and tells you to change something, but what do you do when the person is reducing the prose's quality? It was unexpected, and I don't know if I handled it correctly, but the reviewer seems to have quit the discussion after I opposed many of her edits (from a stated grammar, style and factual standpoint, of course). Perhaps I bungled... I daresay you would have handled the situation with more diplomacy. :) --Melty girl 23:49, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi there -- so nice to hear from you! I appreciate your reading through the FAC review and giving me your take on it, as well as your observations about the process in general. I feel a bit reassured about my responses. I thought for sure the FAC was going to be closed yesterday, but instead, it was moved up to the top, so perhaps the FA director hopes that it will find more reviewers that way -- a good sign, I would think. We'll see what happens. Thanks for the encouragement. --Melty girl 16:02, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and thanks for the edits, too! :) --Melty girl 16:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I have to laugh now, having finally gotten down my watchlist to the FAC. Thanks for your support -- funny that it was the last thing I noticed this morning. --Melty girl 16:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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American films

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Reattempt

Hello again! Just wanted to let you know that I've renominated Cillian Murphy for FA -- it got closed with 8 supports and 3 opposes, and one of the latter has encouraged me to renominate. If you are around, I would so appreciate your support. Thanks! Melty girl 01:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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Fair use hawk

Hi there -- are you still active as a member of the Fair Use project? There's a user who is on a personal campaign against any fair use images in biography articles, and he's out to kill the three fair use images in Cillian Murphy, despite the FA of but two weeks ago. If you have any time to weigh in, I'd appreciate it. See my talk page for how I got dragged into this, and then see Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Fair_use_images_of_celebs_in_Biography_article.3F. This editor thinks that a free image of an actor is sufficient and has no grasp of the difference between that and images of fictional roles. All high quality actor articles could soon be under attack. (In this visual Internet age and with fair use rules, why do some WP users want to eliminate images?!?) Thanks! --Melty girl (talk) 16:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for lending your level-headed self to this ridiculousness. Why do some people in every community spend all their time trying to tear down good work? Humans are weird. This is such an overreach legally and such a simple-minded, ignorant-of-art response. If they insist on deleting the drag photo, I will have to conclude that they are having a religious response, not a reasoned one. Is there any recourse for this totally inappropriate delete? --Melty girl (talk) 06:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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I'm early into reading them myself. They remind me of recent pleasant discussions. I hope you enjoy or enjoyed them. – Conrad T. Pino (talk) 10:50, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

Just an old imdb-er you probably don't remember. Stumbled across an edit and thought it *must* be you. Was fun to see that username again. Hope you have a nice trip, wherever you are. 86.44.4.103 (talk) 08:15, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, that vacation message was a little out of date, I'd been meaning to remove it. Well, you may know me from IMDb as I was once very vocal on those boards. That was a long time ago. I remember a lot of people from there, but you'll have to give me at least a clue. What was your name? I hope you're enjoying yourself here. It's very different but can be a lot of fun. cheers Rossrs (talk) 08:12, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

i was dermotq. i've been dropping by here for years very sporadically and doing a bit of copyediting and maybe a bit more if the right books are on my shelf or what have you. not too interested in the whole community aspect, to be honest, though your presence does speak well for it. Nice work on Kylie and Sunset Boulevard, but then i wouldn't expect any less from you! 86.42.83.73 (talk) 14:55, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! And of course I remember you!! Well it's nice to hear from you. I used to spend a lot of time here - too much as a matter of fact - but lately my visits have been less frequent. I've not bothered with IMDb for quite a while... every time I've looked in on those old message boards I've had the distinct feeling that I'm the only one there who is older than 12. If you know what I mean. So I stopped looking. Rossrs (talk) 15:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Heh, i don't think i lasted much longer there than the time of the amazon buyout, in truth. I still try to get back to PM two or three from there, but sadly nowhere near as often as i should, of course. They've heard from me at about the same rate you have now. Good to see you, and like I say, glad that username is still reprezentin'. 86.42.83.73 (talk) 15:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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Anne Frank

Hey Ross - nice to hear from you! I'm going to keep looking at ways of improving the article - not sure, though, how we can get sources for the sections about her life, as opposed to about the book itself - the latter are readily available, but the former are much less so. Any ideas? I don't have any of the resource books, but I will check my local library and see if they have any. It's too important an article to let it languish - and the talk page suggestions of the diary being fraudulent infuriate me, and inspire me to push on with it. Best wishes to you! Tvoz |talk 20:08, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Those sound great - I haven't gotten to my library yet, but I will. By the way - I am still always on the lookout for sentences that read "Unfortunately, he passed away on November 27, 2007, at only age 52." Tvoz |talk 07:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Totally. That's a classic. Tvoz |talk 07:39, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Your assistance

Thanks so much for the note. I've been editing a lot for a year or so, but still have a lot to learn about managing aspects beyond the simple submission of material. I'll follow your advice. Monkeyzpop (talk) 08:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Biography MOS issue

If you have time, your take on this would be much appreciated: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Amendment_to_.22Subsequent_uses_of_names.22_section. Also see the above section. Hope all is well! --Melty girl (talk) 21:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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