RobMonty1987

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The Wikipedia way

Hi. I'm unsure if you've read my last note to you, here, but I would strongly suggest you do consider opening up a Wiki at Wikia as I recommended there. It seems like it would give you the opportunity to develop the content that you like.

Your last note at User:MLauba suggests some lack of familiarity with the way things are done on this Wiki. The fact that a subject is notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia does not in fact mean that anything goes with regards to its contents. We have three core content policies: Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:No original research. If you can't provide reliable sources for information, it should not be included. Too, we have a specific policy to set out what Wikipedia is not meant to do, at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not.It is to this that MLauba referred when he said "Wikipedia is not a game guide". Your slight misquote of him, mistakes our approach fundamentally: "The idea you preach that "Wikipedia is not a game reference..." is unacceptable". The game is notable. We're here to document that it exists and what reliable sources have said about it. Detailing the minutae of the game is not our purpose. The fact that the article had existed in its condition for so long does not mean that it had "been obviously OKed by Wikipedia". In fact, I had myself tagged the article for precisely those kinds of problems before you left your note at my talk page. In effect, MLauba's addressing the article as he did was a second opinion. I had already opined that the content was inappropriate.

Finally, there is no supervisor of MLauba's to whom you may appeal. We do not have a central authority at Wikipedia. Instead, the policies that govern articles and the implementation of these policies is established by community consensus. If you disagree with the changes MLauba has made, you need to discuss your reasons at the article's talk page as he directed you. If necessary, wider community input can be sought through dispute resolution, but you would do well to read the policies that have already been linked for you. You are not likely to persuade others if what you are proposing to retain in the article does not meet those policies. I would also recommend you read Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines. Note as set out there that the primary goal is to create an encyclopedic article that will be just as interesting to those who have never played (and never will play) the game as to those who have played it. Specifically excluded in the subsection on Inappropriate content are "Lists of gameplay items, weapons, or concepts", "Excessive fictional details" and "Strategy guides and walkthroughs". It's just not appropriate for Wikipedia, I'm afraid, to detail that "the Vanguard is the tank of choice for Co-op combat" or that "most users tactically sneak behind enemy lines to place strategical mines in unsuspecting places, or mount surprise attacks against weak or damaged tanks." Such information might be perfectly at home at Wikia Gaming or Strategy Wiki. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:30, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I understand that you are displeased that Wikipedia's policies and guidelines do not support your goals. While we are interested in preserving information, however, we are not an indiscriminate collection of information. We do have project parameters. In terms of "locking of the article", you may not perhaps follow what is meant by this term. This is page protection, which would prevent it being edited by any IP or, if necessary, any contributor at all. We prefer to leave articles open to editing by anyone, but unfortunately sometimes must take this route when contributors resist community standards. Good luck with your new Wiki, which you should be able to develop in any manner that you and your community find pleasing. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)