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Happy editing! Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:18, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi, could you take a bit of time before starting to delete whole chunks of reliably-cited articles, specially in your first few hundred edits! The lead section is a SUMMARY, normally of cited content in the article's body. That content is generally varied and cited to many sources, as here. Further, Wikipedia is neutral on religion as on all else, but Tolkien was Roman Catholic and his work is full of Christian motifs, so we reliably report on that. Hope that's clear, happy to discuss. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Editors don't "own" anything they publish on Wikipedia edit

This applies to article content, media, and discussion posts.

  Hello. I wanted to let you know that in your recent contributions, you seemed to act as if you were the owner of your post, which had received responses. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. This means that editors do not own articles or other contributions to Wikipedia, including ones they create, and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit a post or article, remember that others are free to change or respond to its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:48, 7 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Other helpful links on ownership of content and Talk page protocols:
User_pages#Ownership_and_editing_of_user_pages
Above linked material mentions the following points:
"Policy does not prohibit users, whether registered or unregistered, from removing comments from their own talk pages, although archiving is preferred. If a user removes material from their talk page, it is normally taken to mean that the user has read and is aware of its contents. There is no need to keep them on display, and usually users should not be forced to do so. It is often best to simply let the matter rest if the issues stop. If they do not, or they recur, then any record of past warnings and discussions can be found in the page history if ever needed, and these diffs are just as good evidence of previous matters."
Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#User_talk_pages
Above linked material mentions the following points:
"The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user. This specifically includes both registered and unregistered users. (Many new users believe they can hide critical comments by deleting them. This is not true: Such comments can always be retrieved from the page history."

The fundamental fact is that everything on Wikipedia is public forever, in page histories, with the exception of highly improper and purely disruptive, libellous, copyright-infringing, obscene and/or dangerous material as described in Wikipedia:Revision_deletion#Criteria_for_redaction, which is redactable by Admins only.--Quisqualis (talk) 22:09, 7 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashli Babbitt: Be sure to read the fine print edit

"The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page."--Quisqualis (talk) 22:16, 7 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Excuse me, but me and the person who put that there were editing the page simultaneously. When I clicked the edit button, the text was not on the page. --Cheers, Random American (talk) 23:12, 7 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

The timing of your edit and the reverting edit was one minute apart, but a deliberate reversion by another editor is what happened. The notice that the discussion was closed posted four minutes prior to your addition, and you were not the only late arrival who got reverted.--Quisqualis (talk) 23:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Talk page etiquette edit

Hello, RandomAmerican115,

It is consider improper to remove user comments after some other editor has replied to them. Please do not do this again. If you wish, you can strike out any comments you have made that you want others to ignore by using <s>Comment</s> around your comment. If you have any questions, please visit the Teahouse. Liz Read! Talk! 22:21, 8 January 2021 (UTC)Reply