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Question from AnnieBGoode (16:59, 9 January 2024)

Hello - and many thanks for volunteering to be a mentor and help newbies like me. My cousin and I have created a document detailing our great-great-uncle William Tanner's journey to New Zealand in 1879.

There is already a Wikipedia page about William Tanner - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tanner_(politician) so I thought it would be useful to be able to a) post this account and b) link it to his existing page. Could you please let me know if this is possible and, if so, how I should go about it? Thank you! --AnnieBGoode (talk) 16:59, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

@AnnieBGoode: Hi! Thank you for the question. Unfortunately, we generally do not use self-published sources on Wikipedia. I'm sure you can understand why: anyone can create a document, blog post, or self-publish a book saying whatever they want; if we allowed self-published sources, anyone could, for example, make up false information about your great-great-uncle and add it to the page. Is the information you want to add published anywhere reputable (e.g. a newspaper article, book, etc.)? Let me know if you have any other questions, thanks — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 04:22, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me. The information on William Tanner's existing Wikipedia page states that he sailed to New Zealand in 1879 on the Waitara. The information I wanted to post is his account of this 15-week voyage which he sent to his family in England. The notebooks his letter was copied into (by my grandmother) have been passed down as older members of the family died and we thought it might be appropriate to add to Wikipedia as it might be of interest to others. It has never been published anywhere else. If I were to get it published, could I then add a link to the existing page? AnnieBGoode (talk) 19:02, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

@AnnieBGoode: Hi, since it's what he wrote himself, it would probably be allowed per WP:ABOUTSELF, as long as it follows those 5 things listed in the link I sent. I'm not entirely sure though, since it's a strange case. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 01:07, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you again for your reply. I'm currently waiting to hear from a couple of New Zealand museums to see whether they might add the account to their websites - one of these has already published many accounts of similar voyages.

If this is not successful, do you think the Add Topic section on William Tanner Politician's page might be an appropriate place to add this account? AnnieBGoode (talk) 19:03, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not sure what you mean by "add topic" section. The information would be incorporated into Tanner's page (Early life, Career, new sections if needed etc.) and properly cited. Thanks — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 02:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the 'Add Topic'section. I clicked on the Talk link at the top of William Tanner Politician's page which has a tab labelled Add Topic.

There's also a box stating that the article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. So would this be an appropriate place to post William's account of his voyage? I've also found a reference to this account online in his obituary. I'm sorry to ask so many questions AnnieBGoode (talk) 18:51, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

@AnnieBGoode: Hi, the add topic section is part of the talk page, I had assumed you wanted to add information to your relative's article. Wikipedia is not the place to be publishing, in full, someone's account of a voyage (Wikipedia is not a webhost/publishing site). You can use that account to add information to the article, but you wouldn't be posting that account in its entirety. Perhaps you can have it published elsewhere, then use it to add facts to the article. What form does this account exist— is it a paper document? Can you scan it and upload it elsewhere? — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 03:25, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks for the explanation. I agree that the account of the voyage isn't really suitable for Wikipedia - for one thing, it's far too long. I am currently contacting local history societies both in England and New Zealand, to see whether they could add the account to their archives and then add a link to the account to William Tanner's Wikipedia page. The account has been transcribed into a Word document.

I have also found an online reference to the account of the voyage in a New Zealand newspaper article, written after William Tanner's death, so I'd also like to add a link to that. However, I won't do anything until I have got this account uploaded somewhere! Thank you again for your advice and patience. AnnieBGoode (talk) 18:36, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good, hopefully it works out for you! — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 18:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Apinan5 (01:50, 3 February 2024)

Hello. I have created a page for "Karl Heinz Blomann" but it seems that the page hasn't been published yet. Please let me know if I need to do something further before It is published. --Apinan5 (talk) 01:50, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

@Apinan5: Hi there, thanks for reaching out. I have moved your page to draftspace, and you can access it here: Draft:Karl-Heinz Blomann. I would recommend that you submit the article to Articles for Creation, which is a review process for drafts. You can do this by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft.

To improve the draft's chance of success, do the following. Make sure every sentence includes an inline citation to a reliable source (see Help:Referencing for beginners). Remove most sentences if they do not have a citaiton. As well, you need to demonstrate the article has notability, meaning you need to find 2-3 reliable secondary sources (e.g. books, newspapers, articles) about the subject that cover it in depth (WP:GNG). Sources that have a connection to the subject (e.g. the artist's personal website) do not count as contributing towards notability.

Let me know if you have any other questions, thanks. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 03:12, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Artkamp209 (18:36, 29 January 2024)

Hello, I'm trying to update a page for an artist I work with and my edits have been deleted. I realize I used external links for my first edit so I tried again without links and it was still deleted. I am trying to add recent exhibitions to the list, should they by cited? I'm not sure how to cite an exhibition? Any help would be great. Thanks. --Artkamp209 (talk) 18:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@Artkamp209: Hi, I can't find any of your edits, were they under an IP or another account? Almost everything added to wikipedia should be cited, to verify that the information is accurate. You would cite an exhibition, for example, by finding a newspaper article written about the exhibition. You should only be using references to reliable, secondary sources. Also, make sure you are properly disclosing your paid editing on your user page or in edit summaries. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 03:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your input. I'm not being paid for the editing and am learning how to navigate wikipedia editing policies. Any advice would be helpful. Artkamp209 (talk) 14:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi, if its an artist you work for, then it does count as a conflict of interest/paid editing and you must disclose it. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 01:59, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for your reply. I misspoke as I am not employed by this artist. I do volunteer work in our local community to raise art awareness and this is an artist in our community. I am employed by Dia Art Foundation. Hope this clears things up. Artkamp209 (talk) 12:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

That still counts as a conflict of interest if you know the artist personally. You still need to disclose it. See here: WP:DISCLOSE. Thanks! — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 01:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Justinbenji (07:46, 5 February 2024)

An editor summit my account for sockpuppet review for creating Draft:Kourage Beatz NSI. Lectonar approved me to write the article after being for a long time, please what should I do. --J U S T I N B E N J I (talk). 07:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

It's up to the reviewer of the sockpuppet review, and whether you are, in fact, a sockpuppet. This isn't really within your control, just wait and see what is decided. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 02:01, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Antny08 (15:39, 16 February 2024)

Hello, I have a draft for a local politician. It cannot be submitted to Wikipedia yet, but there is a section on political debates and ads that isn’t very organized, I would like to put it into some kind of table or slideshow or something, could you help me design that better? Thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Christopher_Del_Borrello --Antny08 (talk) 15:39, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Antny08:, I would recommend you keep that section out of the article because it is unencyclopedic and isn't verified by any citations to secondary sources. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 21:33, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from CavsFan45 (13:32, 21 February 2024)

How Do You Cite A Book --CavsFan45 (talk) 13:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

@CavsFan45: Hey, you use the template {{cite book}} to cite a book. If you're in the visual editor mode, you can click the citation button and in the automatic tab, you can type a book's ISBN and it will usually automatically create a citation. Otherwise, you can manually enter all the information by selecting "manual" in this menu. Hope this helps! — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 13:30, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Ok, Thank You. CavsFan45 (talk) 13:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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How are you sir? --Abhishek singh Abhi ( Gonda) (talk) 17:41, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

@Abhishek singh Abhi: I'm good! Did you have any questions about editing Wikipedia? — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 03:05, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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