Oshburg

Please do not add commercial links or links to your own private websites to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thanks. Deli nk 20:59, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for the note by email. In general, people should not add links to their own sites to any article. Ideally, editors should not have any other interest in a topic to be concerned with, other than writing an encyclopedia. Thanks for the tip on the Energy drink article; indeed the external links had gotten out of hand, as I noted on the talk page. I have removed most of the reviews and blogs.

I saw your question on User_talk:Deli nk and his response there. Her/his suggestion of putting the link on the talk page first is one option, however I am not sure that it is the best solution. In many cases, there will be no discussion on the talk page, but the link will be removed when it is added to the article. In some cases, the link may even be removed from the talk page (since talk page spamming to boost Google ranking has been a problem as well).

The best (although not usually the best to hear) advice is to build a great site, which other people will find is so useful that they will add it. I have taken the liberty of adding a boilerplate welcome message below, since it has some useful links. By all means, feel free to contact me if I can help with anything as well. Thanks, --TeaDrinker 20:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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External links

Thanks for the info on some of the Guidelines. I am however still a little confused. I did see that you removed some of the blog links within the energy category. Yet you told me to create a great site in hopes that some one might add it. If I strive at creating a great site and someone does add it later down the line, what is going to stop some random editor from taking the external link off. Even if my site is not on there, some of those external links would be very useful to the end user. To sum up, how do you know that the sites you removed in the external link section where not put there by people that found those sites useful.

Thanks, Oshburg

There is no policy or guideline that can, in black and white terms, determine the relevance of an external link for an article. This determination is usually left up to the editors. A broad guidline is at WP:EL. Notably, simply because a link covers the same topic as an article does not require it be linked. My own view is that links should be used sparingly; in most cases, there are so many sites on the web we can afford to be picky. Large collections of external links in an article hinders locating information. In the case of energy drinks, google returns 12,900 sites linked with the phrase Energy drink reviews. Unless there is one or two that stand out (like imdb for movie reviews, for instance), I would just as soon folks find their links via Google. So there are no objective rules to determine when a link is relevant; it is up to individual editors of articles. Sometimes editors may disagree. There is nothing stopping a random editor from removing a link, other than other editors who would decide to put it back in because they thought it was useful. Hope this helps, --TeaDrinker 17:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

June 2007

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Glovia Services Inc, you will be blocked from editing. Rackabello 15:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

{{helpme}}

I have yet to get any response back as to why the page Glovia Services was deleted before I even finished making it. I posted my question on Rackabello's talk page but have yet to receive a response. How should I go about finding out why the article I was creating was deemed promotional? Oshburg 13:47, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Users might not reply instantly because they aren't online; as well as Rackabello, who tagged it for deletion, you might also want to ask The Rambling Man, the administrator who carried out the deletion. Common reasons why a page might appear to be promotional include the use of promotional rather than encyclopedic language, and a lack of sources for the article indepenfent of the company itself (for instance, newspaper articles about the company); see the notability guidelines for articles about companies. --ais523 13:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the timely response ais523. I will ask The Rambling Man, as well regarding the situation. I have sources to add to the article, I just did not have time to finish the actual article because it was deleted while I was working on it. Thanks again. Oshburg 14:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Glovia Services Inc

Hello Oshburg, and thanks for your note. The reason your article was delted is as ais523 notes above. Rackabello tagged it as WP:CSD#G11 which is known as blatant advertising. I agreed and deleted the article. Once again, as per the advice of ais523, the article failed to comply with WP:CORP and so was susceptible to this kind of action. If you can provide encyclopaedic evidence that the company is notable then the article will not suffer the same fate. Recreation of the article with such is by no means prohibited but it would be a good idea to add the relevant reliable sources to verify your claim of notability to avoid the article being deleted once again. Hopefully this is of use to you, let me know if there's anything more I can help you with. All the best... The Rambling Man 14:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Better job this time, it still sounds a bit like an advert and all the features of GSInnovate probably (in fact, definitely) shouldn't be listed out that way. I'd prune it right back to information pertaining to the company predominantly rather than specific functions of specific applications developed by the company. The Rambling Man 16:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Let me know if I can be of any further help in this or any other matter. All the best... The Rambling Man 17:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

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5 Hour Energy

From The Rambling Man's talk page:

I tried to contribute another article to Wikipedia. I followed all the guidelines you suggested in the last discussion we had. However, the article was deleted as it was noted as blatant advertising. I don't understand why this happened. I wrote an article on one of my favorite energy drinks, 5 Hour Energy. I used objective content and followed examples of other energy drink articles listed here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_energy_drinks

I am asking you for advice on this matter as you were very helpful the last time I had problems with an article. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Oshburg 20:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Oshburg, I have dropped the admin who deleted it a note asking him to reconsider. --Dweller 07:20, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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SKYSHAPERS Foundation

Hi Oshburg! Right now SKYSHAPERS Foundation reads like a press release. There is plenty of good info in there though and citations. One thing you might try is reducing the size of the massive logo. Even on my 1680x1050 screen it is quite large and overwhelms the article. :) Rob Banzai (talk) 19:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok I reduced the image size as ypu requested by adding the "width1=" line to the infobox.Rob Banzai (talk) 21:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

There is a guide to the "generic infoxbox" template here. Rob Banzai (talk) 17:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for the leads; I've nominated all three of those articles for deletion. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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File permission problem with File:Dylan SurgeonGeneral.jpg

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If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:File copyright tags#Fair use, and add a rationale justifying the file's use on the article or articles where it is included. See Wikipedia:File copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

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File permission problem with File:Dylan CitySlickers.jpg

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If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:File copyright tags#Fair use, and add a rationale justifying the file's use on the article or articles where it is included. See Wikipedia:File copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have provided evidence that their copyright owners have agreed to license their works under the tags you supplied, too. You can find a list of files you have created in your upload log. Files lacking evidence of permission may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. You may wish to read the Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:DylanSpinning.jpg

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If you did not create it entirely yourself, please ask the person who created the file to take one of the two steps listed above, or if the owner of the file has already given their permission to you via email, please forward that email to permissions-enwikimedia.org.

If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:File copyright tags#Fair use, and add a rationale justifying the file's use on the article or articles where it is included. See Wikipedia:File copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

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File permission problem with File:Ellie1.jpg

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If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:File copyright tags#Fair use, and add a rationale justifying the file's use on the article or articles where it is included. See Wikipedia:File copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have provided evidence that their copyright owners have agreed to license their works under the tags you supplied, too. You can find a list of files you have created in your upload log. Files lacking evidence of permission may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. You may wish to read the Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)