Msalavaldes

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Conflict of interest in Wikipedia

Hi Msalavaldes I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia. Your edits to date are all about Lug Healthcare Technology and are somewhat promotional. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.

Hello, Msalavaldes. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

• avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;
• instead, you are encouraged to propose changes on the Talk pages of affected article(s) (see the {{request edit}} template);
• when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
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Comments and requests

Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. While I am not asking you to disclose your identity (anonymity is strictly protecting by our WP:OUTING policy) would you please disclose if you have some connection with Lug? You can answer how ever you wish (giving personally identifying information or not), but if there is a connection, please disclose it. After you respond (and you can just reply below), perhaps we can talk a bit about editing Wikipedia, to give you some more orientation to how this place works. Please reply, just below. I will see it. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 18:25, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

I will respond on your page. Thanks--Msalavaldes (talk) 18:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

copied comment here, that was left on my talk page in this diff - better to keep discussion in one place Jytdog (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi!! Let me introduce myself. I am a wiki editor (woman) of the Spanish wikipedia. I had the same problems of conflicts at the Spanish wikipedia and i tell you the same that i told them. Yes, i am an editor with conflict of interest there. I always edit pages with potential interest in Science, Technology, medical errors, oncology, chemotherapy, patient safety, etc. and most importantly for you, i belong to lug healthcare technology's company. I suppose there is no problem with that because i have already edit a lot of wikipedia´s page, of scientific interest i am going to edit much more if you let me do it. I hope you understand the problematic of chemotherapy processes (for me is also a personal decision - cancer has killed some family persons). I think that i can help with my knowledge (i am a PhD in immunology- you can search at the pubmed some of my articles). Let me know if there is any problem and of course let me know how we can work to get a solution. Thanks a lot!! --Msalavaldes (talk) 18:43, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Perfect!

Thanks for replying, and for disclosing that you are an employee of Lug. So you have a COI with respect to Lug, as we define that in English Wikipedia. Would you please clarify - is public relations part of your job at Lug?

To finish the disclosure piece, would you please add the disclosure to your user page (which is User:Msalavaldes - a redlink, because you haven't written anything there yet). Just something simple like: "I work for Lug Healthcare Technology and have a conflict of interest with regard to that topic" would be fine. If you want to add anything else there that is relevant to what you want to do in WP feel free to add it, but please don't add anything promotional about the company (see WP:USERPAGE for guidance if you like).

I added a tag to the Lug Healthcare Technology article's talk page, so the disclosure is done there. Once you disclose on your user page, the disclosure piece of this will be done.

As I noted above, there are two pieces to COI management in WP. The first is disclosure. The second is a form of peer review. This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and voilà there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world. So the bias that conflicted editors tend to have, can go right into the article. Conflicted editors are also really driven to try to make the article fit with their external interest. If they edit directly, this often leads to big battles with other editors.

What we ask editors to do who have a COI and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is:

a) if you want to create an article relevant to a COI you have, create the article as a draft through the WP:AFC process, disclose your COI on the Talk page, and then submit the draft article for review (the AfC process sets up a nice big button for you to click when it is ready) so it can be reviewed before it publishes; and

b) And if you want to change content in any existing article on a topic where you have a COI, we ask you to propose content on the Talk page for others to review and implement before it goes live, instead of doing it directly yourself. You can make the edit request easily - and provide notice to the community of your request - by using the "edit request" function as described in the conflict of interest guideline. I made that easy for you by adding a section to the beige box at the top of the Talk page at Talk:Lug Healthcare Technology - there is a link at "click here" in that section -- if you click that, the Wikipedia software will automatically format a section in which you can make your request.

By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies. (which I will say more about, if you want).

I hope that makes sense to you.

I want to add here that per the WP:COI guideline, if you want to directly update simple, uncontroversial facts (for example, correcting the facts about where the company has offices) you can do that directly in the article, without making an edit request on the Talk page. Just be sure to always cite a reliable source for the information you change, and make sure it is simple, factual, uncontroversial content.

Will you please agree to follow the peer review processes going forward, when you want to work on the x article or any article where your COI is relevant? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. And if you want me to quickly go over the content policies, I can do that. Just let me know. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 19:00, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

I Agree with everything you have written. Thanks a lot--Msalavaldes (talk) 19:09, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

OK, great! Two more things. I have not worked on the Lug Healthcare Technology article directly yet, because I first wanted to clarify these COI issues with you first. I am not sure that the article meets the WP:CORP notability guideline but will ask others to evaluate that. Also, you said above that you have a lot of expertise and passion to contribute, and I hope you do! I worked for a startup for a while (it failed :( ) but during that time, I simply avoided editing content about the startups subject matter (we were working on a drug to treat an acute CNS condition) and edited about other stuff. You are free to do the same! Best regards and thanks again for talking. Jytdog (talk) 19:14, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

btw I have posted at the COI notice board, here so others can review the article. Thanks again. Jytdog (talk) 19:17, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Please, let me a couple of hours to improve all the references, to make the article notable!!. i also love write about laws, so i am sure i will edit other stuffs  :) Thanks a lot --Msalavaldes (talk) 19:19, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

At this point you should not edit the article directly anymore. If you want, we can move it to WP:DRAFT space, where you can continue to work on it directly. Once you are done, we can put it through the WP:AFC process. If you want to move it to draft space and don't know how, just tell me and I will do it for you. Jytdog (talk) 19:24, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Ok no problem :) --Msalavaldes (talk) 19:25, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

I moved it to draft space, added the AfC tag, and have nominated the redirect at Lug Healthcare Technology for speedy deletion, so that once the article is approved it can be moved back to mainspace with no fuss. Thanks again. Jytdog (talk) 19:33, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

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